1 4cyl stang+$4,000- WHAT TO DO?

nosfed · 07-19-2001, 02:57 PM

I have a 92 4 banger, and will have just over $4,000 to do an efi V8 conversion. I know some of you have done the swap, so please help. I'm not afraid of this project at all, but I do want some specific feedback.

First, I will be running a set of ported TW heads, due to the fact that I can get them for $800 from a buddy. I don't think I can do a 351 with this amount of money, so It's going to be a 302, unless somebody can help there. I am planning on the Holley intake, I have a T-5Z, and an 8.8 with 4.56 gears

It will have mac longtubes, no cats, and mac catback. It will also have a 70mm tb. I will be spraying it, but I'm not sure how big.

*What gear should I run?
*What size cam? I don't care about emmissions, and mileage is a moderate concern
*What pistons?(must be reasonably priced and I'm thinking cheap forged, or good hypers. I really don't think want a set of heavy *** slugs swinging around, so I'm leaning away from forged)
*do you have any warnings about wiring harnesses? I will definately get a mass air/manual setup.
*will the 4cyl ds work?
*will sn95 seats bolt in?
*how much is a power door in good shape worth?I need a pass door, thanks to some jerk.
*can I use Chevy RR on the TW heads?Since they are stud mount, it shouldnt be a problem?

Any other suggestions?

So far, with the heads, exhaust, trans setup, five lug conversion, and rear end, I've taken up $1,800. That leaves jsut 2,200 to do the rest of the conversion. I'm planning on buying as much stuff used as possible. My budget isnt FIRM at $4,000, but its not that flexible either.

Smokedawg · 07-19-2001, 03:11 PM

Well..Lets see
Wonder how cheap u can get a 302 block for??

Bore and cleaning of block = $150
347 JE pistons = $500
Eagle 5.4 rods = $319
Crank = $300-800

You might be able to put together a 347. I know a place to order parts cheap. Let me know if you are interested.

If you plan on having big power, I would stay with about a 3:55 gear. Maybe a 3:73 if you can get good traction.
The sn95 seats will go right into your car too.

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

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nosfed · 07-21-2001, 01:55 PM

Well, I can get a complete roller motor for about $350, but I need a complete wiring harness.

I don't think that I will be anywhere close to my budget if I drop $500 on pistons, and 350 for a crank. My budget barely covered the parts I needed, and I was planning on using the stock crank with a polish stock rods, and $250 pistons/$70 rings

I figure;
$150 at the machine shop, $500 for a holley intake, $100 for bearings, $100 for gaskets, $150 for gears, $75 for setup kit, $150 for used injectors, $100 for fuel pump, $150 for wiring harness, $50 for radiator/shroud, $250-500 for pistons, $80 for rings, $350 for core motor, $30 for oil pump, $150 for used mass air (pro-m Bullet), $100 for used 70mm tb, $100 for intake kit, $150-250 for cam, depending on whether it's used, $70 for pushrods, $100 for lifters. That's if I use $250 pistons, and a used cam.

I'm surely forgetting something, and I'm at $2,700 for these parts, plus the money I've already allocated. So far, I'm at $4,855, without the seats, which I really want, which sets me back another $150.

I appreciate your input, and I'm curious how much power this combo would make with a good cam. I guess I'm looking realistically at $5k for the project now.

nosfed · 07-21-2001, 02:21 PM

I've already forgotten a set of RR and an afpr, but I can offset that by selling my parts car, and drive train for $300.

Also, the Trick flow Track intake is looking more likely, due to Holley's outrageous price. I'm looking at mid .500's lift and moderate duration (220's) cams. Does anybody have any suggestions?

07-19-2001, 02:57 PM	#1
nosfed Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: wichita ks Posts: 79	1 4cyl stang+$4,000- WHAT TO DO? I have a 92 4 banger, and will have just over $4,000 to do an efi V8 conversion. I know some of you have done the swap, so please help. I'm not afraid of this project at all, but I do want some specific feedback. First, I will be running a set of ported TW heads, due to the fact that I can get them for $800 from a buddy. I don't think I can do a 351 with this amount of money, so It's going to be a 302, unless somebody can help there. I am planning on the Holley intake, I have a T-5Z, and an 8.8 with 4.56 gears It will have mac longtubes, no cats, and mac catback. It will also have a 70mm tb. I will be spraying it, but I'm not sure how big. What gear should I run? What size cam? I don't care about emmissions, and mileage is a moderate concern What pistons?(must be reasonably priced and I'm thinking cheap forged, or good hypers. I really don't think want a set of heavy ** slugs swinging around, so I'm leaning away from forged) do you have any warnings about wiring harnesses? I will definately get a mass air/manual setup. will the 4cyl ds work? will sn95 seats bolt in? how much is a power door in good shape worth?I need a pass door, thanks to some jerk. can I use Chevy RR on the TW heads?Since they are stud mount, it shouldnt be a problem? Any other suggestions?* So far, with the heads, exhaust, trans setup, five lug conversion, and rear end, I've taken up $1,800. That leaves jsut 2,200 to do the rest of the conversion. I'm planning on buying as much stuff used as possible. My budget isnt FIRM at $4,000, but its not that flexible either.

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07-19-2001, 03:11 PM	#2
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	Well..Lets see Wonder how cheap u can get a 302 block for?? Bore and cleaning of block = $150 347 JE pistons = $500 Eagle 5.4 rods = $319 Crank = $300-800 You might be able to put together a 347. I know a place to order parts cheap. Let me know if you are interested. If you plan on having big power, I would stay with about a 3:55 gear. Maybe a 3:73 if you can get good traction. The sn95 seats will go right into your car too. ------------------ 347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del. [This message has been edited by Smokedawg (edited 07-19-2001).] [This message has been edited by Smokedawg (edited 07-19-2001).]

07-21-2001, 01:55 PM	#3
nosfed Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: wichita ks Posts: 79	Well, I can get a complete roller motor for about $350, but I need a complete wiring harness. I don't think that I will be anywhere close to my budget if I drop $500 on pistons, and 350 for a crank. My budget barely covered the parts I needed, and I was planning on using the stock crank with a polish stock rods, and $250 pistons/$70 rings I figure; $150 at the machine shop, $500 for a holley intake, $100 for bearings, $100 for gaskets, $150 for gears, $75 for setup kit, $150 for used injectors, $100 for fuel pump, $150 for wiring harness, $50 for radiator/shroud, $250-500 for pistons, $80 for rings, $350 for core motor, $30 for oil pump, $150 for used mass air (pro-m Bullet), $100 for used 70mm tb, $100 for intake kit, $150-250 for cam, depending on whether it's used, $70 for pushrods, $100 for lifters. That's if I use $250 pistons, and a used cam. I'm surely forgetting something, and I'm at $2,700 for these parts, plus the money I've already allocated. So far, I'm at $4,855, without the seats, which I really want, which sets me back another $150. I appreciate your input, and I'm curious how much power this combo would make with a good cam. I guess I'm looking realistically at $5k for the project now.

07-21-2001, 02:21 PM	#4
nosfed Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: wichita ks Posts: 79	I've already forgotten a set of RR and an afpr, but I can offset that by selling my parts car, and drive train for $300. Also, the Trick flow Track intake is looking more likely, due to Holley's outrageous price. I'm looking at mid .500's lift and moderate duration (220's) cams. Does anybody have any suggestions?