The 1st of many Re-build questions

skiwesser · 08-05-2005, 09:52 PM

I'm on a pretty strict budget, but I wanna spray 150-175 shot of gas, how much HP will stock Rods & Crank handle? With TRW (or equivelent forged pistons) what will be my weakest link? Do I need a main girdle? main studs? I am gonna use ARP wave-loc rod bolts but was unsure about reusing the stock main bolts, bad idea??
Thanks,
WES

82 GT · 08-06-2005, 12:32 AM

You are going to have to upgrade your fuel system for sure.
Those stock 5/16 lines are not going to cut it anymore. You will also need a higher flowing fuel pump with an adjustable regulator.
I'm in the process of upgrading my system with 1/2 line from tank to carb. to get ready for nitrous.

skiwesser · 08-06-2005, 02:02 AM

I've already got 190lph in-tank pump & FPR. I've never heard of upgrading fuel lines on an EFI street car, rails maybe but stock ones are supposed to be good to like 350 HP I think.

Fat0eknee · 08-06-2005, 04:23 PM

k um... dont spray that much - that should answer your question :-D

82 GT · 08-06-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by skiwesser

I've already got 190lph in-tank pump & FPR. I've never heard of upgrading fuel lines on an EFI street car, rails maybe but stock ones are supposed to be good to like 350 HP I think.

Yeah but you figure the HP you already have now..say 250 and then add another 100hp of nitrous, you're borderline already.
The last thing you want with nitrous is a lean condition.

lx mike · 08-06-2005, 06:32 PM

You''l be fine with the stock fuel lines. plenty of people running nitrousor blowers and making close to 500 hp with stock lines. just make sure you have a good fuel pump, which you have with the 190. back down the timeing and run good gas like 92-93 octane and you will fine.

82 GT · 08-07-2005, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lx mike

You''l be fine with the stock fuel lines. plenty of people running nitrousor blowers and making close to 500 hp with stock lines.

That doesn't make it "ok"
Yeah, your car will still run but not to it's full potential.

rwhite65 · 08-07-2005, 07:38 PM

For his "budget" build he will probably get by with the stock lines. But as 82gt pointed out, his potential is definately gonna be based off the smaller lines.
Ryan

skiwesser · 08-11-2005, 08:57 AM

What about the main studs & girdle? worth the money W/stock rods & crank?
Can I reuse stock main cap bolts?

~The Jester~ · 08-11-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by skiwesser

What about the main studs & girdle? worth the money W/stock rods & crank?
Can I reuse stock main cap bolts?

I wouldn't. ARP fasteners are cheap insurance. Girdle is worth the money too.

And for the record, I wanna SEE a 500hp motor running on 5/16" fuel line. Sure, I can give you 1,000 psi fuel pressure if you want, but the volume just isn't there. You should be able to sneak by, but I'd definitely look at it in the near future. 1/2" aluminum hard line is cheap enough also.

08-05-2005, 09:52 PM	#1
skiwesser Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: rock hill,S.C. 29730 Posts: 420	The 1st of many Re-build questions I'm on a pretty strict budget, but I wanna spray 150-175 shot of gas, how much HP will stock Rods & Crank handle? With TRW (or equivelent forged pistons) what will be my weakest link? Do I need a main girdle? main studs? I am gonna use ARP wave-loc rod bolts but was unsure about reusing the stock main bolts, bad idea?? Thanks, WES __________________ 88 GT: subs,pullies, 1 3/4 longtubes, flowmasters, AFR 165's,T,F #1 cam,Thyphoon intake, 24# inj., 73mm C&L,65mmT.B., 190LPH pump, Eagle sir rods, forged pistons in a newly rebuilt 306. DYNO TUNED TO 300.97 RWHP 337RWTQ

08-06-2005, 12:32 AM	#2
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	Re: The 1st of many Re-build questions You are going to have to upgrade your fuel system for sure. Those stock 5/16 lines are not going to cut it anymore. You will also need a higher flowing fuel pump with an adjustable regulator. I'm in the process of upgrading my system with 1/2 line from tank to carb. to get ready for nitrous. __________________ '82 GT 351W (.060)Comp Cams 274* Extreme Energy cam, ported & polished heads w/ 1.94/1.60 valves 10.3:1 flat top pistons,stealth intake, Mallory dizzy,Holley 750dp carb, BBK shorties,Flowmaster exhaust,C-4 with 3700 stall converter, B&M pro shifter,8.8 rear, 4:10's, subframes, electric fan, powermaster alternator, 4 core radiator.

08-06-2005, 02:02 AM	#3
skiwesser Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: rock hill,S.C. 29730 Posts: 420	Re: The 1st of many Re-build questions I've already got 190lph in-tank pump & FPR. I've never heard of upgrading fuel lines on an EFI street car, rails maybe but stock ones are supposed to be good to like 350 HP I think. __________________ 88 GT: subs,pullies, 1 3/4 longtubes, flowmasters, AFR 165's,T,F #1 cam,Thyphoon intake, 24# inj., 73mm C&L,65mmT.B., 190LPH pump, Eagle sir rods, forged pistons in a newly rebuilt 306. DYNO TUNED TO 300.97 RWHP 337RWTQ

08-06-2005, 04:23 PM	#4
Fat0eknee I'm slow ...I know. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: houston Posts: 518	Re: The 1st of many Re-build questions k um... dont spray that much - that should answer your question :-D __________________ When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

08-06-2005, 06:32 PM	#6
lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	Re: The 1st of many Re-build questions You''l be fine with the stock fuel lines. plenty of people running nitrousor blowers and making close to 500 hp with stock lines. just make sure you have a good fuel pump, which you have with the 190. back down the timeing and run good gas like 92-93 octane and you will fine. __________________ Rice Haters Club Member #101

08-07-2005, 07:38 PM	#8
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	Re: The 1st of many Re-build questions For his "budget" build he will probably get by with the stock lines. But as 82gt pointed out, his potential is definately gonna be based off the smaller lines. Ryan __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored

08-11-2005, 08:57 AM	#9
skiwesser Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: rock hill,S.C. 29730 Posts: 420	Re: The 1st of many Re-build questions What about the main studs & girdle? worth the money W/stock rods & crank? Can I reuse stock main cap bolts? __________________ 88 GT: subs,pullies, 1 3/4 longtubes, flowmasters, AFR 165's,T,F #1 cam,Thyphoon intake, 24# inj., 73mm C&L,65mmT.B., 190LPH pump, Eagle sir rods, forged pistons in a newly rebuilt 306. DYNO TUNED TO 300.97 RWHP 337RWTQ

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