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Old 01-29-2002, 09:02 PM   #1
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Question Modded 90 LX vs 98 GT?

Just curious about how I should fair against my friends car. He has a 98 GT (4.6L V8) with a manual that runs strong, but is completely stock.

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Auto tranny in perfect condition
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Michelin Pilots on stock 15" rims
Cobra Mass Air Flow Sensor
Other suspension stuff and some other small stuff.

Also, I was thinking about selling my car and getting a 93 cobra. How would my car fair against the cobra, and how would the cobra fair against the 98 GT.

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Old 01-29-2002, 09:03 PM   #2
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Just a note...my car is the 90 LX
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Old 01-29-2002, 09:08 PM   #3
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You should be about 7 or 8 tenths faster than your friend your car is lighter and more powerfull.

Bet some cash if you can.

A 93 cobra would not be much faster than your 90LX with the mods you have.

Get a shift kit and a stall converter and your car will fly.

I know what you mean though there is just something about a cobra..
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Old 01-29-2002, 09:18 PM   #4
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I know! I love my car, it has been good to me

But the Cobra is just calling for me. I also want the manual. Also, what is a stall converter and what does it do? I am pretty familiar with stang mods, but I am unfamiliar with that one.

Also, I have the car bug, so I am willing to put more $$ into the Cobra...In fact, I have a hard time not putting more $$ into the LX even though I know I plan to sell it. I am that bad.

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[E-303 Cam]-[Granetelli Mass Air Flow Sensor]
[Front and rear sway bars]-[New black carpet and seats.]
[Adjustable Fuel Regulator]-[T5 Conversion w/ K. Cobra Clutch/Hurst STS]
[Cobra Throttle Body]-[130A Alt. Conversion]

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Old 01-29-2002, 11:15 PM   #5
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You should be about 7 or 8 tenths faster than your friend your car is lighter and more powerfull.
How do you figure? 90 LX Auto vs. 98 5-speed, I think it'll be real close, both being in the 15's.
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Old 01-29-2002, 11:26 PM   #6
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I haven't ran my stang since it was stock, but I would expect to run about a 14.7

And I think the 98 GT runs about a 15.2 with a good driver. And I sincerely doubt he knows the optimal shift points. Actually I know he doesn't

However, we will probably only be going 0-60 or 0-70.
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[BBK X-Pipe]-[MAC Cat-Back Exhaust]
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[3.55 Gears]-[Cobra Intake Manifold (Upper and Lower]
[E-303 Cam]-[Granetelli Mass Air Flow Sensor]
[Front and rear sway bars]-[New black carpet and seats.]
[Adjustable Fuel Regulator]-[T5 Conversion w/ K. Cobra Clutch/Hurst STS]
[Cobra Throttle Body]-[130A Alt. Conversion]

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Old 01-30-2002, 12:45 PM   #7
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How do you figure? 90 LX Auto vs. 98 5-speed, I think it'll be real close, both being in the 15's.
I dont know how often you get to the track but LX's with gears run mid 14's in the quarter @3000 ft where I race. (yes even the auto's) A guy I know ran a 14.6 @ 96 nearly bone stock with a 90 LX auto

But your right the 98 GT is a low 15 sec car
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Old 01-30-2002, 01:21 PM   #8
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I dont know how often you get to the track but LX's with gears run mid 14's in the quarter @3000 ft where I race. (yes even the auto's) A guy I know ran a 14.6 @ 96 nearly bone stock with a 90 LX auto
I've been to the track ALOT, that is basically my home away from home. Maybe with some 4:10's, it would be in the 14's. I've driven a quite a few auto 5.0's, and they are not 14 second cars nearly bone stock. With his mod's he's probaly around 14.8-14.9 maybe, Give the 98 GT a 15.1(maybe faster)and that is just a few tenths not, 7 or 8.

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You should be about 7 or 8 tenths faster than your friend your car is lighter and more powerfull.
By telling him that, your basically saying his car runs a 14.3-14.4, and that is just not going to happen with his mod's.

Sonics2042 a 93 Cobra would be awesome, if you can find one, cheap enough. Most people from what I've seen want 12,000-18,000 for one with decently low miles.
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Old 01-30-2002, 01:38 PM   #9
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Hmm I think it would be pretty close! Your downfall is that AOD!
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Old 01-30-2002, 02:28 PM   #10
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Your 90 will beat the 98. Hell i beat a 98 with my L at the track and I'm a good 1000 pounds more weight at least and only mods were K&N open cone, FMS 9mm wires, MSD 6A and Blaster TFI coil (my time was a 15.3@90 with 2.3 60 ft.). I used to have a 96 and the early 4.6s suck in the GT's. Yeah the 98 has 225 vs the 215 stock hp of my 96 but they are also heavy and the 4.6 sucks badly for torque performance. Your 90 has the better gear and torque, though if I was you I'd put in some 4.10s if you keep the car. Your car is also lighter and with the auto you won't miss a shift. From what you've told us about your friend, he will miss a shift . He's running a 2.73 rear gear if he's still stock. My 96, with totally stock and 2.73s ran a 15.4 @ 94 with a 2.4 60ft. But also mine was probably about 200 or so pounds less than that 98 will be (it was a GTS version, weighed a little over 3200 without me in it and 3/4 tank of gas). Though once I put in my 3.73s (I had the T45 5speed) I dropped to a 15.0@92 with a 2.3 60 ft. My bet is you'll take him pretty good.
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Good call, Adam, I mean 96GTS, hehe!
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Hey Johnny, what's up??? Didn't see ya online, hehe.
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By telling him that, your basically saying his car runs a 14.3-14.4, and that is just not going to happen with his mod's.

Sonics2042 a 93 Cobra would be awesome, if you can find one, cheap enough. Most people from what I've seen want 12,000-18,000 for one with decently low miles.
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WTF is that all about?
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Bad89, You say you have been to the track, but I see plenty of 5.0 with auto and mininal mods in the low 14's. My friends 93 ran a best of 14.1@98 with 373s, Mac cold air and full exhuast and trans-go - not really modded at all. However, without the exhuast he ran a 14.4@96. In any event no 96-98 will be close to him, even with similar mods.
My money is on the 5.0.
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Bad89, You say you have been to the track
You guys keep acting like I've never been to the track, I've ran 15's, 14's, 13's, 12's, 11's, a 10 second 1/4 mile times. I'm an avid drag racer, if you'd like to come down here I'd be glad to show you. 99.9% of the fox auto's with just gears and exhaust are not going to run 14.1's. I'm really calling BS on that one. But it really doesn't matter to me about arguing if someone ran a 14 second 1/4. LOL. And I really ? that .1% did. I don't know.... maybe it's your elevation where these auto's are running low 14's with a cold air that basically does nothing vs. a removed air silencer, exhaust(not going to knock off .3's and 2 mph like you stated.) and gears that is not going to knock
off .8's. (because a stock one is running 15's.) I think your being a ricer. I could really care less what your car runs or your friends car ran, if your "fast" come show me at my track.
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Well, those are the numbers. I am honest on this board and don't cotton to lying. I am not a ricer and I did not intent to say you havent seen 15 sec autos out there, but I HAVE seen low to mid 14 sec ones nor that you were not an avid racer. It is just hard to believe with all that experience you have not run across what seems to be fairly normal.
My elevation is sea level and those times were on hot humid summer days.
Think what you want but dont name call, it is petty and I am the furthest thing from a ricer, I know what adds HP to a mustang and what is vapour ware.
And if I was closer I would gladly run your LS1 for fun.
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I have never seen a auto 5.0 all stock run anything but 15+, and I've driven probaly 5+different ones and I'd say they were 15+second cars.

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And if I was closer I would gladly run your LS1 for fun.
I really don't race the SS too often, it's my daily driver, but I have before and it runs consistent 13.1's N/A. I'd be happy to race you in my S-10 also for fun too.

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Nobody at 1BAD89's track has ever run a good time in their Mustang. Only the almighty LS1 is fast. Note: His LS1 runs MUCH quicker than most, but nobody's Mustang could possibly run a good time.
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Unit answer me this, is a 90 LX auto, witth 3:55's mac cold air, and exhaust going to run 14.1's?
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