starting engine

carboy · 01-21-2002, 08:24 AM

i have rebuilt my motor now it won't start. i have a white spark at #1 spark plug,,,shouldn't it be blue. got gas coming in carb, checked timing and it is correct,,,any words of wisdom out there?i have a 66 stang with a 302 v8, edelbrock intake and carb, tri-y headers and crane cam.

mustangman65_79 · 01-21-2002, 08:38 AM

what does it sound like when u crank it over?

Whits spark- bright , or not?

werked 66 · 01-21-2002, 10:26 AM

your gonna have to keep playing around until you can get it to run . i recently started my rebuilt engine i have a edelbrock manifold and a 600 carb . man i had flames shooting out of the carb ran like junk until i played with the timing enough to keep it running to adjust the air/ fuel mixtures also does your car show any signs of trying to start like backfiring , is there compression any change in sound when you move the distributor let me know and i will try to help you out also make sure you got the distributor is in correct..

werked 66

carboy · 01-21-2002, 08:32 PM

just got home from work and tried to start it again after 1 day of sitting and i gave 1 kick on the pedal and it almost started,,,at least it coughed a few times, after looking in the carb it looks like it's flooding out..luckily i have a holley 750 on a shelf so i will try it out. i double checked the distributor and the plug wires, they are all correct,, i think i should have a brighter spark though,,,blue not white. next plan of attack i guess will be new points, condensor, rotor and cap, also a new coil

Rev · 01-21-2002, 09:00 PM

When at TDC the rotor is at #1 plug wire, correct? If you have spark, compression, and gas, it has to fire. That is assuming the cam and crank are alligned correctly.

Rev

carboy · 01-21-2002, 10:23 PM

at tdc the rotor is just b4 or just about to hit the #1 slot on the cap and at that point is when my points are open the most,,,is that correct? i just tried my other carb and it is leaking also. both carbs have been sitting up for 2 years while i have been saving to get the rest of the car done. i have gas all over my intake around the carb area. i guess i will have to bite the bullet and do a rebuild kit.. any suggestions which carb i should rebuild,,,,,the 600 edelbrock or the 750,,,4010 holley????
the mechanic that rebuilt my engine also told me he degreed the cam at 4 degrees advanced... will this make a difference on where i place the distributor?

Rev · 01-21-2002, 10:34 PM

Try cranking at WOT. You may be rich with the wet description. Keep your foot on the floor whe3n cranking and see what happens.

Rev

carboy · 01-22-2002, 08:00 AM

i will try and get a carb kit for my holley and reinstall tonight.
thanks for the info.
i'll let you know how it works out.
how do i change my location on this msg board. i have moved to corpus christi a year ago?

PKRWUD · 01-22-2002, 08:34 AM

2 points to consider:

1) Try exactly what Rev is suggesting. Don't stop until it fires or the battery nearly dies. Eventually it will catch. Just make sure you don't pump the pedal. Just put it to the floor and crank it over.

2) The Holley 4010 only has accelerator pump and power valve gaskets as places it could leak.

Take care,
-Chris

carboy · 01-22-2002, 10:34 PM

thanks for the info. i just installed new points, rotor, condensor, cap, and found a friend to help with both my carbs. hopefully i'll have some good news by this weekend.
thanks guys

zach0 · 01-23-2002, 10:44 AM

Something else to remember.Don't know if you did it or not but remember how easy it is to set the timing 180 deg. out. cycles twice before it is at true tdc

carboy · 01-23-2002, 09:36 PM

i tried moving the plug wires around 180 degrees and it still didn't help. i going to have to wait a couple of days till both my carbs are done and then i'll start over. i'll let ya'll know if it starts.
thanks

01-21-2002, 08:38 AM	#2
mustangman65_79 My poor 79 RIP Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suisun City, Posts: 2,320	what does it sound like when u crank it over? Whits spark- bright , or not? __________________ '84 mustang GT turbo '85 LTD '89 Camaro Irocz z28 '94 Lightning '96 Trans am

01-21-2002, 09:00 PM	#5
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	When at TDC the rotor is at #1 plug wire, correct? If you have spark, compression, and gas, it has to fire. That is assuming the cam and crank are alligned correctly. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

01-21-2002, 10:34 PM	#7
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Try cranking at WOT. You may be rich with the wet description. Keep your foot on the floor whe3n cranking and see what happens. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

01-22-2002, 08:34 AM	#9
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	2 points to consider: 1) Try exactly what Rev is suggesting. Don't stop until it fires or the battery nearly dies. Eventually it will catch. Just make sure you don't pump the pedal. Just put it to the floor and crank it over. 2) The Holley 4010 only has accelerator pump and power valve gaskets as places it could leak. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

01-23-2002, 10:44 AM	#11
zach0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Hampton, Virginia Posts: 227	Something else to remember.Don't know if you did it or not but remember how easy it is to set the timing 180 deg. out. cycles twice before it is at true tdc __________________ 1980 RX7 with 289 Ford V-8 bored .030 over, Very radical cam, Torker 2 high rise intake, Holley 650 Carb, MSD Nascar 6ALN ignition, MSD coil and distributor, Headers with dual open side exhaust. Over 300 horse. 1966 Mustang still in progress

01-21-2002, 08:24 AM	#1
carboy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 66	starting engine i have rebuilt my motor now it won't start. i have a white spark at #1 spark plug,,,shouldn't it be blue. got gas coming in carb, checked timing and it is correct,,,any words of wisdom out there?i have a 66 stang with a 302 v8, edelbrock intake and carb, tri-y headers and crane cam.

01-21-2002, 10:26 AM	#3
werked 66 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brooklyn , New York Posts: 45	your gonna have to keep playing around until you can get it to run . i recently started my rebuilt engine i have a edelbrock manifold and a 600 carb . man i had flames shooting out of the carb ran like junk until i played with the timing enough to keep it running to adjust the air/ fuel mixtures also does your car show any signs of trying to start like backfiring , is there compression any change in sound when you move the distributor let me know and i will try to help you out also make sure you got the distributor is in correct.. werked 66

01-21-2002, 08:32 PM	#4
carboy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 66	just got home from work and tried to start it again after 1 day of sitting and i gave 1 kick on the pedal and it almost started,,,at least it coughed a few times, after looking in the carb it looks like it's flooding out..luckily i have a holley 750 on a shelf so i will try it out. i double checked the distributor and the plug wires, they are all correct,, i think i should have a brighter spark though,,,blue not white. next plan of attack i guess will be new points, condensor, rotor and cap, also a new coil

01-21-2002, 10:23 PM	#6
carboy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 66	at tdc the rotor is just b4 or just about to hit the #1 slot on the cap and at that point is when my points are open the most,,,is that correct? i just tried my other carb and it is leaking also. both carbs have been sitting up for 2 years while i have been saving to get the rest of the car done. i have gas all over my intake around the carb area. i guess i will have to bite the bullet and do a rebuild kit.. any suggestions which carb i should rebuild,,,,,the 600 edelbrock or the 750,,,4010 holley???? the mechanic that rebuilt my engine also told me he degreed the cam at 4 degrees advanced... will this make a difference on where i place the distributor?

01-22-2002, 08:00 AM	#8
carboy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 66	i will try and get a carb kit for my holley and reinstall tonight. thanks for the info. i'll let you know how it works out. how do i change my location on this msg board. i have moved to corpus christi a year ago?

01-22-2002, 10:34 PM	#10
carboy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 66	thanks for the info. i just installed new points, rotor, condensor, cap, and found a friend to help with both my carbs. hopefully i'll have some good news by this weekend. thanks guys

01-23-2002, 09:36 PM	#12
carboy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 66	i tried moving the plug wires around 180 degrees and it still didn't help. i going to have to wait a couple of days till both my carbs are done and then i'll start over. i'll let ya'll know if it starts. thanks

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