HP and 1/4 mile time guessing contest - Lets see who knows their stuff

2FastLX · 12-23-2001, 04:16 PM

1988 Notchback - No A/C, rear seat removed, battery in trunk
410 Stroker
11:1 compression
Port-matched Victor 5.8L intake
75mm TB
80mm MAS
36lb injectors
Canfield Stage II ported aluminum heads flowing 275cfm/206cfm @ .600" lift
Custom non-roller hydraulic cam with around .575-.600" lift with 1.6 roller rockers and 270-280 or so split duration.
1 3/4" Kooks long tube headers and 3" off-road exhaust
March aluminum underdrive pulleys
3.73 gears
10 point roll cage
sub-frame connectors
Tubular K-member and control arms
Maximum Motorsport adjustable control arms, panhard bar, and torque arm in the back
Koni double-adjustable coil overs front and rear.

What do you think the FLYWHEEL HP will be N/A?
What quarter mile times could this combo see N/A and with a 125hp shot on Nitto DR's and on slicks?
And last of all - What kind of difference would it make to go built C4 or TKO?

The engine is at the shop getting machined now and I plan to have it together in a couple months. After it's done I'll have it thrown on the dyno to see what it's got at the flywheel and see how close everyone is. I know this is a lot of stuff to take a stab at, but give it your best shot!

7DMACH1 · 12-23-2001, 09:53 PM

Ok, I'll be brave. 490 flywheel HP. 10.53 @125mph

Skyman · 12-23-2001, 10:07 PM

Its all gonna matter if you can get it tuned and running right.

Any guess is as good as anyones here.

You may run 14's or 13's your first time out.

Eventually you should be able to dial it in to high 10's at 123 on slicks all motor.

Skyler

byrnech · 12-24-2001, 02:35 AM

Properly tuned I will say 525hp@ the flywheel, and mid to high 10's. Low 10's high 9's with a 150 shot. Maybe I'm just being generous though.

But good luck with putting it all together. Sounds like my car but with about 80 more c.i. and another point of compression. Oh and my guess is that a C4 will be more consistant, but no overdrive. A Tremec will be more fun IMO, and more streetable.

2FastLX · 12-24-2001, 04:02 AM

It'll be well tuned before I drive it. I heard this guy might not have a dyno to use EFI, but I need to talk to him to be sure. I don't want to dyno it with a carb. Actually, I don't see what the problem would be since I have an engine wiring harness and the computer and everything needed to make an EFI setup work.

It costs $500 for 8 hours on the dyno. That should be enough time to try a few degrees on the cam, air-fuel, and anything else we would need. But if he's not going to be able to do it with the EFI stuff on it I'll drop it in the car and go to a chassis dyno. There's a place that has wide band close by.

7DMACH1 · 12-24-2001, 12:00 PM

Good luck, mine was on the dyno for 18 hrs. RAY

2FastLX · 12-24-2001, 12:12 PM

Wow. That's a lot of tuning. I'll have to ask him to see what he thinks it's going to take.

2FastLX · 12-24-2001, 12:24 PM

Nice cars by the way Ray. I made you an avatar. I'll attach it here if you want to grab it.

7DMACH1 · 12-26-2001, 03:05 PM

Dark_5.0 · 12-26-2001, 05:34 PM

11.2 @119N/A.......10.4 @128 on tha juice 520 FWHP

to be exact

COME CORRECT · 12-26-2001, 11:49 PM

You could make about 450 rwhp and run about 11.50@118mph on the motor. With the a Juice boost I would say about 10.30@ 131mph..

Skyman · 12-27-2001, 01:56 AM

Nah, you guys need to remember how much HP were dealing with. At this level 150hp shot isnt going to add that much MPH.

ANd this is a lightened car, it should go 122--123 on motor, setup correctly.

Skyler

fiveohpatrol · 12-27-2001, 02:57 AM

I'm guessing that when you let ME take it down the track, then it'll go low 14's the first try, then after i get new underwear after $hitting my pants from the rush, then i'll take it to low 11's

12-23-2001, 04:16 PM	#1
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	HP and 1/4 mile time guessing contest - Lets see who knows their stuff 1988 Notchback - No A/C, rear seat removed, battery in trunk 410 Stroker 11:1 compression Port-matched Victor 5.8L intake 75mm TB 80mm MAS 36lb injectors Canfield Stage II ported aluminum heads flowing 275cfm/206cfm @ .600" lift Custom non-roller hydraulic cam with around .575-.600" lift with 1.6 roller rockers and 270-280 or so split duration. 1 3/4" Kooks long tube headers and 3" off-road exhaust March aluminum underdrive pulleys 3.73 gears 10 point roll cage sub-frame connectors Tubular K-member and control arms Maximum Motorsport adjustable control arms, panhard bar, and torque arm in the back Koni double-adjustable coil overs front and rear. What do you think the FLYWHEEL HP will be N/A? What quarter mile times could this combo see N/A and with a 125hp shot on Nitto DR's and on slicks? And last of all - What kind of difference would it make to go built C4 or TKO? The engine is at the shop getting machined now and I plan to have it together in a couple months. After it's done I'll have it thrown on the dyno to see what it's got at the flywheel and see how close everyone is. I know this is a lot of stuff to take a stab at, but give it your best shot! __________________ Project: 1988 Coupe - EFI 5.8L Twin Turbo with Victor intake, Canfield heads, F303 cam, March aluminum underdrive pulleys, TKO (or T56 if funds permit), PBR twin piston calipers and 13" rotors up front, 94 Cobra rear calipers and 12" rotors on the rear, 3.73's, Griggs K-member, tubular front control arms, torque arm and panhard bar, polished 99 Cobra wheels. "The GR-40 kit installation is now complete, and the humble Fox-chassis car will now out-corner and out-stop a ZR-1 or a Viper, and support massive horsepower additions with perfect balance." Griggs Racing ICQ# 42269241

12-23-2001, 09:53 PM	#2
7DMACH1 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: PHILA. PA USA Posts: 469	Ok, I'll be brave. 490 flywheel HP. 10.53 @125mph __________________ Your Way Network VIDEOS www.yourwayvideo.com

12-23-2001, 10:07 PM	#3
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Its all gonna matter if you can get it tuned and running right. Any guess is as good as anyones here. You may run 14's or 13's your first time out. Eventually you should be able to dial it in to high 10's at 123 on slicks all motor. Skyler __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

12-24-2001, 02:35 AM	#4
byrnech Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Anderson, TX. Posts: 166	Properly tuned I will say 525hp@ the flywheel, and mid to high 10's. Low 10's high 9's with a 150 shot. Maybe I'm just being generous though. But good luck with putting it all together. Sounds like my car but with about 80 more c.i. and another point of compression. Oh and my guess is that a C4 will be more consistant, but no overdrive. A Tremec will be more fun IMO, and more streetable. __________________ 331 10:1, AFR 185's, TFS-R intake

12-24-2001, 04:02 AM	#5
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	It'll be well tuned before I drive it. I heard this guy might not have a dyno to use EFI, but I need to talk to him to be sure. I don't want to dyno it with a carb. Actually, I don't see what the problem would be since I have an engine wiring harness and the computer and everything needed to make an EFI setup work. It costs $500 for 8 hours on the dyno. That should be enough time to try a few degrees on the cam, air-fuel, and anything else we would need. But if he's not going to be able to do it with the EFI stuff on it I'll drop it in the car and go to a chassis dyno. There's a place that has wide band close by. __________________ Project: 1988 Coupe - EFI 5.8L Twin Turbo with Victor intake, Canfield heads, F303 cam, March aluminum underdrive pulleys, TKO (or T56 if funds permit), PBR twin piston calipers and 13" rotors up front, 94 Cobra rear calipers and 12" rotors on the rear, 3.73's, Griggs K-member, tubular front control arms, torque arm and panhard bar, polished 99 Cobra wheels. "The GR-40 kit installation is now complete, and the humble Fox-chassis car will now out-corner and out-stop a ZR-1 or a Viper, and support massive horsepower additions with perfect balance." Griggs Racing ICQ# 42269241

12-24-2001, 12:00 PM	#6
7DMACH1 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: PHILA. PA USA Posts: 469	Good luck, mine was on the dyno for 18 hrs. RAY __________________ Your Way Network VIDEOS www.yourwayvideo.com

12-24-2001, 12:12 PM	#7
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	Wow. That's a lot of tuning. I'll have to ask him to see what he thinks it's going to take. __________________ Project: 1988 Coupe - EFI 5.8L Twin Turbo with Victor intake, Canfield heads, F303 cam, March aluminum underdrive pulleys, TKO (or T56 if funds permit), PBR twin piston calipers and 13" rotors up front, 94 Cobra rear calipers and 12" rotors on the rear, 3.73's, Griggs K-member, tubular front control arms, torque arm and panhard bar, polished 99 Cobra wheels. "The GR-40 kit installation is now complete, and the humble Fox-chassis car will now out-corner and out-stop a ZR-1 or a Viper, and support massive horsepower additions with perfect balance." Griggs Racing ICQ# 42269241

12-26-2001, 03:05 PM	#9
7DMACH1 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: PHILA. PA USA Posts: 469	test __________________ Your Way Network VIDEOS www.yourwayvideo.com

12-26-2001, 05:34 PM	#10
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	11.2 @119N/A.......10.4 @128 on tha juice 520 FWHP to be exact __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

12-26-2001, 11:49 PM	#11
COME CORRECT Registered Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Headed EAST in 5 days Posts: 252	HP & ET You could make about 450 rwhp and run about 11.50@118mph on the motor. With the a Juice boost I would say about 10.30@ 131mph.. __________________ PALADIN MOTORSPORTS "COME CORRECT"

12-27-2001, 01:56 AM	#12
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Nah, you guys need to remember how much HP were dealing with. At this level 150hp shot isnt going to add that much MPH. ANd this is a lightened car, it should go 122--123 on motor, setup correctly. Skyler __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

12-27-2001, 02:57 AM	#13
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	I'm guessing that when you let ME take it down the track, then it'll go low 14's the first try, then after i get new underwear after $hitting my pants from the rush, then i'll take it to low 11's __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft