Why God Why?????

5.0L_Of_Fury · 09-28-2002, 05:31 PM

bought a new belt for 5.0 last night...they gave me the wrong one so I went back first thing this morning(Advanced Auto Parts) they didnt have the right one...so I tooled on down to autozone..pulled in the parking lot and headed for a parking spot...a guy was backing out and never even looked back to see my beautiful new 1990 Mustang LX 5.0...new hood fender and bumper...his fault...this blow I cant even drive it cuz the wheel rubs BAD and I cant open my pass. door...this sucks...(but im thinkin I might get a Cobra R Hood With SVOP Scoop out of it)....

Stang_Crazy · 09-28-2002, 06:00 PM

That sucks man. Just goes to show that you can be the most careful person in the world but you still have to watch out for all the Morons in the world. Hop you get her fixed soon!!

Unit 5302 · 09-28-2002, 09:19 PM

Review of the driving rules and regulations here would make it your fault, not his.

People backing out of a parking space have the right away over through traffic because of events just like this one. It's difficult to see who's behind you, but because of reverse lights, the person passing through can see who's backing up easily.

Do you always just force your way through parking lots? Were you looking for people backing up?

Sorry, but in my cars I keep a look out for who's backing up, I know the rules, and I stay out of harms way. Even if it costs me 10sec before I park.

Hope the laws are different there. I hate having accident crap on my record. Good luck!

Rev · 09-28-2002, 09:32 PM

Great to see you back Unit and still your old self.

Rev

5.0L_Of_Fury · 09-28-2002, 09:35 PM

I was stopped at the time of collision and the cops said it was his fault

Rev · 09-28-2002, 09:46 PM

At least in Texas, the onus is always on the person backing out. And as it should be IMHO.

Rev

jj_jonathon · 09-28-2002, 11:06 PM

it is his fault, but in florida we have a "no fault" law for little accidents like these...it sucks major ***..

...sorry man, glad you might benefit from it...

Unit 5302 · 09-28-2002, 11:37 PM

Okay, you made it sound like you were driving through. Since you were stopped, although I can't imagine why you'd stop directly behind somebody while proceeding to a parking spot, you occupied the space first, and you had the right of way. If you are driving through, the law here (and rightfully so) states you are to yield right of way. Mainly the law is in place because when backing out, you cannot see traffic coming from the sides behind you as other cars obstruct your view. Too many people zip through parking lots like it's a racetrack. If you're backing out and Emerson Fittapaldi doing 25mph in his Geo Metro can't avoid you, it becomes an accident.

In Kentucky, it would appear not to be the case. I feel it's naive to expect a person in a parking space to be able to see through cars, but the x-ray vision of a Kentucky citizen makes it a prudent law.

Statute 189.440 Starting a Parked Vehicle

No person shall start a vehicle that is stopped or parked unless and until the movement can be made with reasonable safety.

Effective October 1, 1942
History Recodified 1942 Ky. Acts ch. 208, sec 1, effective October 1, 1942, from Ky Stat. sec. 2379g-69o.

This would be the statue directly responsible for making the other guy at fault.

Rev · 09-28-2002, 11:52 PM

Damn, have I missed that Unit-like prose.

Rev

Crazy Horse GT · 09-28-2002, 11:55 PM

welcome back kell.

, sorry about your car adam , jeez you just got it, that sux.

mustangII460 · 09-28-2002, 11:55 PM

State law does not apply on private property in Tennessee. Its a free for all. Most insurance companys because of court decisions, side with the person pulling through, as having the right of way.

Saying that, you still can not plow through and (Cause a wreck.)

Alot of the wrecks are usually paid by each persons ins. to fix there own car.

The only things I can inforce are public safety citations. (Reckless Etc..)

Sorry about your car. Parking lots remind me of "Mine fields." Walmart has the bigest one of all, STAY AWAY!

5.0L_Of_Fury · 09-29-2002, 03:56 PM

ok unit....I pulled into the parking lot saw him backing so I stopped..insted of him backing and cutting the wheels and pulling forward he kept backing as to totaly straighten out before proceeding forward where in turn by never looking back he hit me no I wans t zipping through a parking lot I WAS STOPPED, the police report states that it was NOT my fault and I dont really care what the laws are where you live...all I care about is the laws here and getting my car fixed...thank you have a nice day

Unit 5302 · 09-29-2002, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by 4cyl_Of_Fury
ok unit....I pulled into the parking lot saw him backing so I stopped..insted of him backing and cutting the wheels and pulling forward he kept backing as to totaly straighten out before proceeding forward where in turn by never looking back he hit me no I wans t zipping through a parking lot I WAS STOPPED, the police report states that it was NOT my fault and I dont really care what the laws are where you live...all I care about is the laws here and getting my car fixed...thank you have a nice day

I didn't say you were zipping through the parking lot. You were stopped, so I think that would be an oxymoron. I already said it wasn't your fault because you occupied the space before he started backing. I was more or less remarking on the extremely current parking lot guidlines that were established during World War II, and then I noted why the law should be considered a little flawed.

Sorry to hear about your car getting smashed up, and I apologize for coming across as though I felt you were responsible after your clarification.

5.0L_Of_Fury · 09-29-2002, 04:12 PM

its ok man but it did seem to me like you where saying you thought I was to blame..sorry I yelled

The Fireman · 09-29-2002, 08:25 PM

I would have killed the guy if it was me.

5.0L_Of_Fury · 09-29-2002, 10:51 PM

Did I mention he was an extreamly LARGE African American Gentleman????

5.0L_Of_Fury · 09-29-2002, 11:00 PM

I know it dont look bad but the car has been wrecked before and the hood has bondo on it already....dad says most places wont RE-fix a bondoed area...looks like a Cobra R With SVO scoop then....DARN (taken at night I know its not a good pic)

mustangII460 · 09-30-2002, 12:01 AM

After reviewing all the posts. I cant figure out why did you go to Abvanced Auto,,AH,,,then went back,,AH,,,again..

The Ford gods were watching and evidently got pissed.

Seems like Abvanced should shell out the repair bill

09-28-2002, 05:31 PM	#1
5.0L_Of_Fury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mayfield,KY,USA Posts: 288	Why God Why????? bought a new belt for 5.0 last night...they gave me the wrong one so I went back first thing this morning(Advanced Auto Parts) they didnt have the right one...so I tooled on down to autozone..pulled in the parking lot and headed for a parking spot...a guy was backing out and never even looked back to see my beautiful new 1990 Mustang LX 5.0...new hood fender and bumper...his fault...this blow I cant even drive it cuz the wheel rubs BAD and I cant open my pass. door...this sucks...(but im thinkin I might get a Cobra R Hood With SVOP Scoop out of it).... __________________ OLD NAME:4cyl_Of_Fury 1990 LX 5.0 Hatchback K&N,March Ram Air,Strut Tower Brace '93LX Hatchback !FOR SALE No Substitute For Cubic Inches! BURN EM UP fivepointzero@kytnar.org "Give 'Er Hell" "They Call It Minute Rice..Gee Are Those Actually Track Times?" Firemen: We Find 'Em Hot And Leave 'Em Wet" Rice Haters Club Member #23 (GM Ricer Fads) Gotta Love Hatin 'Em CLUTCHES,FUEL PUMP RELAYS,FOUR CYLINDERS

09-28-2002, 06:00 PM	#2
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	That sucks man. Just goes to show that you can be the most careful person in the world but you still have to watch out for all the Morons in the world. Hop you get her fixed soon!! __________________ ~Dan 2001 SVT Lightning 89' GT : Taking up garage space and waiting for a buyer... Rice Hater's Club - Member #11

09-28-2002, 09:19 PM	#3
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	His Fault? Review of the driving rules and regulations here would make it your fault, not his. People backing out of a parking space have the right away over through traffic because of events just like this one. It's difficult to see who's behind you, but because of reverse lights, the person passing through can see who's backing up easily. Do you always just force your way through parking lots? Were you looking for people backing up? Sorry, but in my cars I keep a look out for who's backing up, I know the rules, and I stay out of harms way. Even if it costs me 10sec before I park. Hope the laws are different there. I hate having accident crap on my record. Good luck!

09-28-2002, 09:32 PM	#4
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Great to see you back Unit! Great to see you back Unit and still your old self. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

09-28-2002, 09:35 PM	#5
5.0L_Of_Fury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mayfield,KY,USA Posts: 288	I was stopped at the time of collision and the cops said it was his fault __________________ OLD NAME:4cyl_Of_Fury 1990 LX 5.0 Hatchback K&N,March Ram Air,Strut Tower Brace '93LX Hatchback !FOR SALE No Substitute For Cubic Inches! BURN EM UP fivepointzero@kytnar.org "Give 'Er Hell" "They Call It Minute Rice..Gee Are Those Actually Track Times?" Firemen: We Find 'Em Hot And Leave 'Em Wet" Rice Haters Club Member #23 (GM Ricer Fads) Gotta Love Hatin 'Em CLUTCHES,FUEL PUMP RELAYS,FOUR CYLINDERS

09-28-2002, 09:46 PM	#6
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	onus At least in Texas, the onus is always on the person backing out. And as it should be IMHO. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

09-28-2002, 11:06 PM	#7
jj_jonathon Trisket Join Date: May 2002 Location: University of Florida, FL Posts: ½ Posts: 1,560	it is his fault, but in florida we have a "no fault" law for little accidents like these...it sucks major ***.. ...sorry man, glad you might benefit from it... __________________ University of Florida - Physics Major My 02GT vert Media Center Pics BBK Underdrive Pulleys \| K&N FIPK (Gen II) \| Bullet Grille \| Mach 1 Chin Spoiler \| UPR Interior Parts \| XM Radio \| Audiobahn Subs Ricer Hater's Club Member #1/2 (30) http://www.ricehatersclub.com/

09-28-2002, 11:37 PM	#8
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Okay, you made it sound like you were driving through. Since you were stopped, although I can't imagine why you'd stop directly behind somebody while proceeding to a parking spot, you occupied the space first, and you had the right of way. If you are driving through, the law here (and rightfully so) states you are to yield right of way. Mainly the law is in place because when backing out, you cannot see traffic coming from the sides behind you as other cars obstruct your view. Too many people zip through parking lots like it's a racetrack. If you're backing out and Emerson Fittapaldi doing 25mph in his Geo Metro can't avoid you, it becomes an accident. In Kentucky, it would appear not to be the case. I feel it's naive to expect a person in a parking space to be able to see through cars, but the x-ray vision of a Kentucky citizen makes it a prudent law. Statute 189.440 Starting a Parked Vehicle No person shall start a vehicle that is stopped or parked unless and until the movement can be made with reasonable safety. Effective October 1, 1942 History Recodified 1942 Ky. Acts ch. 208, sec 1, effective October 1, 1942, from Ky Stat. sec. 2379g-69o. This would be the statue directly responsible for making the other guy at fault.

09-28-2002, 11:52 PM	#9
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Prose Damn, have I missed that Unit-like prose. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

09-28-2002, 11:55 PM	#10
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	welcome back kell. , sorry about your car adam , jeez you just got it, that sux. __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

09-28-2002, 11:55 PM	#11
mustangII460 Factoy Five Roadster Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sevier Co,Tennessee Posts: 1,681	State law does not apply on private property in Tennessee. Its a free for all. Most insurance companys because of court decisions, side with the person pulling through, as having the right of way. Saying that, you still can not plow through and (Cause a wreck.) Alot of the wrecks are usually paid by each persons ins. to fix there own car. The only things I can inforce are public safety citations. (Reckless Etc..) Sorry about your car. Parking lots remind me of "Mine fields." Walmart has the bigest one of all, STAY AWAY! __________________ Frank

09-29-2002, 03:56 PM	#12
5.0L_Of_Fury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mayfield,KY,USA Posts: 288	ok unit....I pulled into the parking lot saw him backing so I stopped..insted of him backing and cutting the wheels and pulling forward he kept backing as to totaly straighten out before proceeding forward where in turn by never looking back he hit me no I wans t zipping through a parking lot I WAS STOPPED, the police report states that it was NOT my fault and I dont really care what the laws are where you live...all I care about is the laws here and getting my car fixed...thank you have a nice day __________________ OLD NAME:4cyl_Of_Fury 1990 LX 5.0 Hatchback K&N,March Ram Air,Strut Tower Brace '93LX Hatchback !FOR SALE No Substitute For Cubic Inches! BURN EM UP fivepointzero@kytnar.org "Give 'Er Hell" "They Call It Minute Rice..Gee Are Those Actually Track Times?" Firemen: We Find 'Em Hot And Leave 'Em Wet" Rice Haters Club Member #23 (GM Ricer Fads) Gotta Love Hatin 'Em CLUTCHES,FUEL PUMP RELAYS,FOUR CYLINDERS

09-29-2002, 04:12 PM	#14
5.0L_Of_Fury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mayfield,KY,USA Posts: 288	its ok man but it did seem to me like you where saying you thought I was to blame..sorry I yelled __________________ OLD NAME:4cyl_Of_Fury 1990 LX 5.0 Hatchback K&N,March Ram Air,Strut Tower Brace '93LX Hatchback !FOR SALE No Substitute For Cubic Inches! BURN EM UP fivepointzero@kytnar.org "Give 'Er Hell" "They Call It Minute Rice..Gee Are Those Actually Track Times?" Firemen: We Find 'Em Hot And Leave 'Em Wet" Rice Haters Club Member #23 (GM Ricer Fads) Gotta Love Hatin 'Em CLUTCHES,FUEL PUMP RELAYS,FOUR CYLINDERS

09-29-2002, 08:25 PM	#15
The Fireman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Ford Country which is in Virginia Posts: 287	I would have killed the guy if it was me. __________________ "Gripping the wheel his knuckles went white with desire. The wheels of his Mustang exploding onto the highway like a slug from a 45." The car that should've got crused.

09-29-2002, 10:51 PM	#16
5.0L_Of_Fury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mayfield,KY,USA Posts: 288	Did I mention he was an extreamly LARGE African American Gentleman???? __________________ OLD NAME:4cyl_Of_Fury 1990 LX 5.0 Hatchback K&N,March Ram Air,Strut Tower Brace '93LX Hatchback !FOR SALE No Substitute For Cubic Inches! BURN EM UP fivepointzero@kytnar.org "Give 'Er Hell" "They Call It Minute Rice..Gee Are Those Actually Track Times?" Firemen: We Find 'Em Hot And Leave 'Em Wet" Rice Haters Club Member #23 (GM Ricer Fads) Gotta Love Hatin 'Em CLUTCHES,FUEL PUMP RELAYS,FOUR CYLINDERS

09-30-2002, 12:01 AM	#18
mustangII460 Factoy Five Roadster Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sevier Co,Tennessee Posts: 1,681	After reviewing all the posts. I cant figure out why did you go to Abvanced Auto,,AH,,,then went back,,AH,,,again.. The Ford gods were watching and evidently got pissed. Seems like Abvanced should shell out the repair bill __________________ Frank