Blower or n/a parts first: your thoughts?

Capri306 · 06-05-2001, 02:50 PM

Hey ever-body, I'm at the point where I'll soon have enough $$$ to pick up some of the goodies I've wanted for a VERY long time. The thing I can't decide is where to start. My 'Stang is both a project and a daily driver: a 1987 LX Notchback 5.0L, whose only modifications so far are 3.73 gears, a B&M TorqueMaster 2000 converter, a B&M shift improver kit, and a conversion to Mass Air from a 1989 Mustang. If you want to count the FlowMaster H-pipe and mufflers as mods, so be it. Okay here's the n/a parts list:

- AFR 165cc heads, 58cc
- FRPP 65mm TB
- FRPP Cobra intake
- FRPP E303 cam
- Harland Sharp roller rockers
- Pro-Flo 75mm MAF sensor calibrated to 24 lb/hr
- FRPP 24 lb/hr injectors
- BBK adjustable fuel pressure regulator & gauge
- and all the typical total rebuild items

Here's the kicker to this setup. I'll also be getting a Paxton blower, most likely the SN-2000 because I don't need the boost or price of a NOVI-2000 for the street. The other attractive thing is that it doesn't use engine oil for lube.

Even though this car has 113,000 on it, it still runs very strong, still uses 10W-30 oil, and only burns MAYBE 1qt between changes. The transmission is newly rebuilt and has been strong so far. Now for my question: Would you go with the blower first just to get some experience with it (I don't mind blowing gaskets & parts on a motor that's getting rebuilt anyway), or wait and save for the complete rebuild? I'm leaning towards just bolting on the blower so I can learn to tinker without too much worry of blowing stuff up. I'd be pretty ticked if something went with all those new parts! Did I just answer my own question? Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks!

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Capri306, Moderator, The Mustang Works Online
1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73
1987 Mustang LX Notch

Dark Knight · 06-05-2001, 03:54 PM

I'd get the N/A parts 1st..with the S/C, you'll find out just how good the rings really seal with that many miles..with it N/A, you'll be able to drive it longer and save more money for other needed stuff, like an upgraded fuel system ;-)

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84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer
3.55's, underdrives stock shorties
stock cam, 1.7's
14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day
265 on the mph/weight chart

1BAD89 · 06-05-2001, 04:04 PM

Just a question? Why the 65mm TB, the cobra intake, and the Pro Flo 75mm MA? There are better products for the same price IMO. Unless you have the hook up. See ya.

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3:55's,BBK Off-Road H-pipe,BBK jet-hot coated equal length shorty headers,BBK 70mm Throttle Body,BBK adjustable clutch quadrant,C & L 76mm Mass air meter,Cobra R's 17x9 w/ 245's,Trick Flow Intake,Flowmaster Force II exhaust system, Super Duty T5,Centerforce II Clutch,Heavy Duty Radiator,9mm Ford racing plug wires,Accel cap and Rotor

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06-05-2001, 04:10 PM

I'd go with the engine work-up first, then add the blower later. I thought this whole thing out already, and wit all the info I gathered, that's the way I'm heading. Good luck w/ whatever you decide.

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts);
30# injectors; JMS Chip; 190 lb fp; TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113)

NO SLO PK · 06-05-2001, 04:25 PM

I'd also go with the engine stuff first. With a blower, you'll be adding a lot of complications that you wouldn't normally have. I think you'd be impressed with how fast you can go with the engine parts you listed.

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Russ L
'91 LX
Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.

Dark_5.0 · 06-05-2001, 09:17 PM

THERE IS A "NOVI 2000" BLOWER ON E-BAY RIGHT NOW!!!

GOOD LUCK LATER

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88 mustang gt convertible bored to 306 BBk equal length headers mac cold air fender kit cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 160* thermostat 16 degrees of timing electric fan off 94' t-bird jacobs electronics cap and wires.
best 60 ft 2.14, best 1/8th 9.65, best 1/4 15.2 @89mph

06-05-2001, 02:50 PM	#1
Capri306 Moderator Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Posts: 1,001	Blower or n/a parts first: your thoughts? Hey ever-body, I'm at the point where I'll soon have enough $$$ to pick up some of the goodies I've wanted for a VERY long time. The thing I can't decide is where to start. My 'Stang is both a project and a daily driver: a 1987 LX Notchback 5.0L, whose only modifications so far are 3.73 gears, a B&M TorqueMaster 2000 converter, a B&M shift improver kit, and a conversion to Mass Air from a 1989 Mustang. If you want to count the FlowMaster H-pipe and mufflers as mods, so be it. Okay here's the n/a parts list: - AFR 165cc heads, 58cc - FRPP 65mm TB - FRPP Cobra intake - FRPP E303 cam - Harland Sharp roller rockers - Pro-Flo 75mm MAF sensor calibrated to 24 lb/hr - FRPP 24 lb/hr injectors - BBK adjustable fuel pressure regulator & gauge - and all the typical total rebuild items Here's the kicker to this setup. I'll also be getting a Paxton blower, most likely the SN-2000 because I don't need the boost or price of a NOVI-2000 for the street. The other attractive thing is that it doesn't use engine oil for lube. Even though this car has 113,000 on it, it still runs very strong, still uses 10W-30 oil, and only burns MAYBE 1qt between changes. The transmission is newly rebuilt and has been strong so far. Now for my question: Would you go with the blower first just to get some experience with it (I don't mind blowing gaskets & parts on a motor that's getting rebuilt anyway), or wait and save for the complete rebuild? I'm leaning towards just bolting on the blower so I can learn to tinker without too much worry of blowing stuff up. I'd be pretty ticked if something went with all those new parts! Did I just answer my own question? Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks! ------------------ Capri306, Moderator, The Mustang Works Online 1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73 1987 Mustang LX Notch

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06-05-2001, 03:54 PM	#2
Dark Knight Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Az Posts: 854	I'd get the N/A parts 1st..with the S/C, you'll find out just how good the rings really seal with that many miles..with it N/A, you'll be able to drive it longer and save more money for other needed stuff, like an upgraded fuel system ;-) ------------------ 84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer 3.55's, underdrives stock shorties stock cam, 1.7's 14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day 265 on the mph/weight chart

06-05-2001, 04:04 PM	#3
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	Just a question? Why the 65mm TB, the cobra intake, and the Pro Flo 75mm MA? There are better products for the same price IMO. Unless you have the hook up. See ya. ------------------ 3:55's,BBK Off-Road H-pipe,BBK jet-hot coated equal length shorty headers,BBK 70mm Throttle Body,BBK adjustable clutch quadrant,C & L 76mm Mass air meter,Cobra R's 17x9 w/ 245's,Trick Flow Intake,Flowmaster Force II exhaust system, Super Duty T5,Centerforce II Clutch,Heavy Duty Radiator,9mm Ford racing plug wires,Accel cap and Rotor www.geocities.com/i8urvpr/JM.html?987369348700

06-05-2001, 04:10 PM	#4
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	I'd go with the engine work-up first, then add the blower later. I thought this whole thing out already, and wit all the info I gathered, that's the way I'm heading. Good luck w/ whatever you decide. ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 30# injectors; JMS Chip; 190 lb fp; TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113)

06-05-2001, 04:25 PM	#5
NO SLO PK Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Arcadia, CA, USA Posts: 731	I'd also go with the engine stuff first. With a blower, you'll be adding a lot of complications that you wouldn't normally have. I think you'd be impressed with how fast you can go with the engine parts you listed. ------------------ Russ L '91 LX Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.

06-05-2001, 09:17 PM	#6
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	THERE IS A "NOVI 2000" BLOWER ON E-BAY RIGHT NOW!!! GOOD LUCK LATER ------------------ 88 mustang gt convertible bored to 306 BBk equal length headers mac cold air fender kit cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 160* thermostat 16 degrees of timing electric fan off 94' t-bird jacobs electronics cap and wires. best 60 ft 2.14, best 1/8th 9.65, best 1/4 15.2 @89mph