HELP!! C-4 is in, starter won't engage.

john_86stang · 02-16-2001, 12:10 AM

Just finishing up a T-5 to C-4 swap. I am using a late model C-4 with small bellhousing, case fill out of a 79 Lincoln(it is not a C-5) I bolted up my stock starter and it like about 1/2" or so engageing the flexplate. I used a 157 tooth 50 ounce imbalance flexplate like everyone said I needed. Everything up to this point far has went together perfect. This is in an 86 GT. Will an AOD starter bolt up to a C-4? Any ideas??? Thanks

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John Welch
86 GT, 3.73's, H-pipe, No smog pump, pulleys, K&N, and still going.

Capri306 · 02-16-2001, 02:05 AM

I'm trying to remember which starter I had to use on my C4 on my Capri....I'll find out for you. I remember trying a starter for a 1969 Ford Fairlane w/ 302 engine, since that's what the C4 came out of. I couldn't use that starter with my BLOWtech headers I had at the time because of clearance issues. I know, you're all saying, "flowtechs have clearance issues?", right???

I THINK I ended up using the stock starter for a 1979 Merc. Capri and it bolted up beautifully. Give it a try! I really don't think the 3524A starter for an AOD will work on a C4, again if I remember correctly. Sorry I can't remember much at 2:00am!

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Capri306, Moderator, The Mustang Works Online
1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73
1987 Mustang LX Notch

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juiceman · 02-16-2001, 07:23 PM

you will need a starter from an automatic since the snouts are different between the two.

john_86stang · 02-16-2001, 09:21 PM

Well I goofed pretty bad!!!!!! I had a big bellhousing all along. There is only 1" difference in width between the small and big bell. Since I thought it was a small bell I ordered the 157 tooth flexplate, it don't work to good in the big bell. I just happened to have a small bell in my bone pile. But now the aluminum dustcover(that goes between tranny bell and motor, behind flexplate.) won't fit. I'm gonna try to go find one tommorrow at the junkyard. If anyone knows which cars came with the small bell it might speed up my search. Thanks a lot!!!!

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John Welch
86 GT, 3.73's, H-pipe, No smog pump, pulleys, K&N, and still going.

[This message has been edited by john_86stang (edited 02-16-2001).]

02-16-2001, 12:10 AM	#1
john_86stang Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Crossett, Arkansas USA Posts: 45	HELP!! C-4 is in, starter won't engage. Just finishing up a T-5 to C-4 swap. I am using a late model C-4 with small bellhousing, case fill out of a 79 Lincoln(it is not a C-5) I bolted up my stock starter and it like about 1/2" or so engageing the flexplate. I used a 157 tooth 50 ounce imbalance flexplate like everyone said I needed. Everything up to this point far has went together perfect. This is in an 86 GT. Will an AOD starter bolt up to a C-4? Any ideas??? Thanks ------------------ John Welch 86 GT, 3.73's, H-pipe, No smog pump, pulleys, K&N, and still going.

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02-16-2001, 02:05 AM	#2
Capri306 Moderator Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Posts: 1,001	I'm trying to remember which starter I had to use on my C4 on my Capri....I'll find out for you. I remember trying a starter for a 1969 Ford Fairlane w/ 302 engine, since that's what the C4 came out of. I couldn't use that starter with my BLOWtech headers I had at the time because of clearance issues. I know, you're all saying, "flowtechs have clearance issues?", right??? I THINK I ended up using the stock starter for a 1979 Merc. Capri and it bolted up beautifully. Give it a try! I really don't think the 3524A starter for an AOD will work on a C4, again if I remember correctly. Sorry I can't remember much at 2:00am! ------------------ Capri306, Moderator, The Mustang Works Online 1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73 1987 Mustang LX Notch <--- New Timeslips

02-16-2001, 07:23 PM	#3
juiceman Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ny Posts: 197	you will need a starter from an automatic since the snouts are different between the two.

02-16-2001, 09:21 PM	#4
john_86stang Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Crossett, Arkansas USA Posts: 45	Well I goofed pretty bad!!!!!! I had a big bellhousing all along. There is only 1" difference in width between the small and big bell. Since I thought it was a small bell I ordered the 157 tooth flexplate, it don't work to good in the big bell. I just happened to have a small bell in my bone pile. But now the aluminum dustcover(that goes between tranny bell and motor, behind flexplate.) won't fit. I'm gonna try to go find one tommorrow at the junkyard. If anyone knows which cars came with the small bell it might speed up my search. Thanks a lot!!!! ------------------ John Welch 86 GT, 3.73's, H-pipe, No smog pump, pulleys, K&N, and still going. [This message has been edited by john_86stang (edited 02-16-2001).]