Please give opinions on new setup...

Smokedawg · 04-17-2002, 07:52 PM

347 Stroker
AFR 185's, ported and polished
Holley systemax intake, ported and polished
Anderson cam
1.6 or 1.7 RR's
30lb Injectors
76mm C&L
70mm TB
Holley adjustable fuel regulators
D&D Tubular K-member and A-Arms
Flaming river manual steering
Windage Tray
Long tube headers
Fuel cell
Rear seat delete
Battery in back
A/C delete
Smog delete
Underdrive pulleys
Flex-a-lite fan
8pt Roll cage
O/R H-pipe
4.30 gears
31 Spline axles
Mac upper and lower control arms
Quad shocks removed (Hoping to fit 315's in the rear)
Eibach drag launch kit
70/30 struts
50/50 drag shocks

My only question is I dont know what tranny to buy. I am wanting a strong Auto with a good stall, what is a stall that is streetable but still has plenty of balls...
The car has been doing the one wheel wonder for some time now. Will rebuilding the trac lok be enough or will it break again with to much power...

After the car is all together I am taking it to Andersons Motorsports in Ill. and having it dyno'd...Then from there I am going to add a shot of giggle gas to get it to its limits..isnt the stock block limits like 550hp??? is that at the crank or the wheels??

Thanks
Derek

red82gt · 04-17-2002, 09:20 PM

I'd look at a Lentech AOD, From what I've heard the C4 isn't very fun on the street. I think if your spending this much money, might as well rebuild your 8.8 and get c-clip eliminators (You'll need them if you break into the 10's) and an aftermarket diff or spool. I like my Torsen diff but I don't think it's really designed for drag racing, Oh yeah 31 or 33 spline hardened axles will be a must.

Skyman · 04-18-2002, 01:50 AM

Sounds like a killer setup to me. I dont think you will need 4.30 gears though. That 347 will make plenty of torque. Id go with 3.73's with a T-5 or Tremec 5speed, of if u deciede with the auto I would go with 4.10's.

As for the holley, give Jack at muscle motors a call, I got mine next day from him.. For a killer price, I cant say it on here.

But call him, tell him your my friend and he can get you a great price, they are instock so they go out as soon as you pay.

Musclemotors.
1-818-888-7778

Skyler

Coupe5oh · 04-18-2002, 03:00 AM

I would just run that combo on the motor (just my opinion), you would have the wheels up on a launch im sure n/a (with slicks), and if your using streetable compression the 30lb injtrs should be enough, how reliable do you plan on keeping it? with roll cage and 4.30 grs i take it you wont be driving to work everyday,

depending on race weight, you could see a high 11-low 12, just granny shifting a t-5.

oh yea, while your getting upgraded axles, it would only be the right thing to do to get a locker diff..ie powertrax......good luck with a heck of a combo.

with 4.30 grs, you will not hook up any kind of radials, not that i know of.

Piston · 04-18-2002, 08:57 AM

Hey smoke,

Which anderson cam you getting? You testing out their new line of cams??? Let me know what you get and how it goes. I'm interested to hear others results.

Smokedawg · 04-18-2002, 09:35 AM

This car will be driven once or twice a week through town and to a couple local car shows. I havent decided which anderson cam I am going to go with yet. I am going to give them a call and see which one I should go with.

So should I try to keep my WC T-5 for awhile and see how it does? How much power can those things handle?

302 LX Eric · 04-18-2002, 10:40 AM

Sorry if I missed it, but what compression are you going with? And how much porting are you going to have done? Any flow #'s in mind?

E

Smokedawg · 04-18-2002, 12:06 PM

I have no idea what compression and flow #'s are going to be...I was just going to have automotion of indy port as much as possible and still match the ports for the intake and heads.

As for the heads, I am uncertain of which chambers to go with 58cc or 64cc? Stud or pedestal mount? I am unsure..Which would be the best. I will also be wanting to run a shot of nitrous with this setup also...

302 LX Eric · 04-18-2002, 01:34 PM

I would go with the stud mounts and say 10:1 or 10.5:1 with nitrous. Depending upon the exact pistons, gaskets, etc. that you end up with you'll most likely be around 10:1 with flat-top pistons and 58 cc heads. 64 cc's would drop to around 9.4:1 or so.

E

WADS56 · 04-18-2002, 01:58 PM

I would use the victor 5.0 on a 347. I had the systemax II intake and the victor 5.0 was much better for my setup, even down low. I would also drop kick the auto and buy a tremec tko with a nice set of 3.73's but I am a stick man.
This is what I would do.

347 Stroker
AFR 185's, ported and polished
Victor 5.0, gasket match
custom cam
1.6 rr's
30lb Injectors
76mm C&L
70mm TB
Holley adjustable fuel regulator and a 255lpr pump
D&D Tubular K-member and A-Arms & coil overs
Flaming river manual steering
Windage Tray
Long tube headers
Fuel cell
Rear seat delete
Battery in back
A/C delete
Smog delete
Underdrive pulleys
Flex-a-lite fan
8pt Roll cage
O/R H-pipe
3.73 gears
31 Spline axles
SSM lift bars and uppers
Quad shocks removed (Hoping to fit 315's in the rear)
Moroso "trick" rear springs
50/50 drag shocks

Wade

04-17-2002, 07:52 PM	#1
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	Please give opinions on new setup... 347 Stroker AFR 185's, ported and polished Holley systemax intake, ported and polished Anderson cam 1.6 or 1.7 RR's 30lb Injectors 76mm C&L 70mm TB Holley adjustable fuel regulators D&D Tubular K-member and A-Arms Flaming river manual steering Windage Tray Long tube headers Fuel cell Rear seat delete Battery in back A/C delete Smog delete Underdrive pulleys Flex-a-lite fan 8pt Roll cage O/R H-pipe 4.30 gears 31 Spline axles Mac upper and lower control arms Quad shocks removed (Hoping to fit 315's in the rear) Eibach drag launch kit 70/30 struts 50/50 drag shocks My only question is I dont know what tranny to buy. I am wanting a strong Auto with a good stall, what is a stall that is streetable but still has plenty of balls... The car has been doing the one wheel wonder for some time now. Will rebuilding the trac lok be enough or will it break again with to much power... After the car is all together I am taking it to Andersons Motorsports in Ill. and having it dyno'd...Then from there I am going to add a shot of giggle gas to get it to its limits..isnt the stock block limits like 550hp??? is that at the crank or the wheels?? Thanks Derek __________________ 1990 Mustang GT- 347 Stroker-Tremec 3550-Compucar Nitrous, AFR, Systemax Intake, AFM, 30lbers, 70MM TB, 76mm MAF, full suspension and lots more 1995 Chevy S-10 406 SBC, Dual tunnel ram, Dart heads, Nitrous, full tub, 4-link, adjustable drag shocks, coil-overs, 9in rearend, 4.56 gears...etc

04-18-2002, 01:50 AM	#3
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Sounds like a killer setup to me. I dont think you will need 4.30 gears though. That 347 will make plenty of torque. Id go with 3.73's with a T-5 or Tremec 5speed, of if u deciede with the auto I would go with 4.10's. As for the holley, give Jack at muscle motors a call, I got mine next day from him.. For a killer price, I cant say it on here. But call him, tell him your my friend and he can get you a great price, they are instock so they go out as soon as you pay. Musclemotors. 1-818-888-7778 Skyler __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

04-18-2002, 03:00 AM	#4
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	I would just run that combo on the motor (just my opinion), you would have the wheels up on a launch im sure n/a (with slicks), and if your using streetable compression the 30lb injtrs should be enough, how reliable do you plan on keeping it? with roll cage and 4.30 grs i take it you wont be driving to work everyday, depending on race weight, you could see a high 11-low 12, just granny shifting a t-5. oh yea, while your getting upgraded axles, it would only be the right thing to do to get a locker diff..ie powertrax......good luck with a heck of a combo. with 4.30 grs, you will not hook up any kind of radials, not that i know of. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

04-18-2002, 08:57 AM	#5
Piston Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 77	Hey smoke, Which anderson cam you getting? You testing out their new line of cams??? Let me know what you get and how it goes. I'm interested to hear others results. __________________ Stock Bottom End 302. With TFS stage II ported and milled heads. Anderson B2 cam with 1.6RR. Hooker Full Tube Headers flowing into offroad H-Pipe out Hooker mufflers. Ported Edelbrock Preformer Upper/Lower. Lots of other Goodies... Just bought a nice forged 331 stroker kit for a new block that should be ready to take 650hp of abuse.

04-18-2002, 09:35 AM	#6
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	This car will be driven once or twice a week through town and to a couple local car shows. I havent decided which anderson cam I am going to go with yet. I am going to give them a call and see which one I should go with. So should I try to keep my WC T-5 for awhile and see how it does? How much power can those things handle? __________________ 1990 Mustang GT- 347 Stroker-Tremec 3550-Compucar Nitrous, AFR, Systemax Intake, AFM, 30lbers, 70MM TB, 76mm MAF, full suspension and lots more 1995 Chevy S-10 406 SBC, Dual tunnel ram, Dart heads, Nitrous, full tub, 4-link, adjustable drag shocks, coil-overs, 9in rearend, 4.56 gears...etc

04-17-2002, 09:20 PM	#2
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	I'd look at a Lentech AOD, From what I've heard the C4 isn't very fun on the street. I think if your spending this much money, might as well rebuild your 8.8 and get c-clip eliminators (You'll need them if you break into the 10's) and an aftermarket diff or spool. I like my Torsen diff but I don't think it's really designed for drag racing, Oh yeah 31 or 33 spline hardened axles will be a must.

04-18-2002, 10:40 AM	#7
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	Sorry if I missed it, but what compression are you going with? And how much porting are you going to have done? Any flow #'s in mind? E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

04-18-2002, 12:06 PM	#8
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	I have no idea what compression and flow #'s are going to be...I was just going to have automotion of indy port as much as possible and still match the ports for the intake and heads. As for the heads, I am uncertain of which chambers to go with 58cc or 64cc? Stud or pedestal mount? I am unsure..Which would be the best. I will also be wanting to run a shot of nitrous with this setup also... __________________ 1990 Mustang GT- 347 Stroker-Tremec 3550-Compucar Nitrous, AFR, Systemax Intake, AFM, 30lbers, 70MM TB, 76mm MAF, full suspension and lots more 1995 Chevy S-10 406 SBC, Dual tunnel ram, Dart heads, Nitrous, full tub, 4-link, adjustable drag shocks, coil-overs, 9in rearend, 4.56 gears...etc

04-18-2002, 01:34 PM	#9
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	I would go with the stud mounts and say 10:1 or 10.5:1 with nitrous. Depending upon the exact pistons, gaskets, etc. that you end up with you'll most likely be around 10:1 with flat-top pistons and 58 cc heads. 64 cc's would drop to around 9.4:1 or so. E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

04-18-2002, 01:58 PM	#10
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	I would use the victor 5.0 on a 347. I had the systemax II intake and the victor 5.0 was much better for my setup, even down low. I would also drop kick the auto and buy a tremec tko with a nice set of 3.73's but I am a stick man. This is what I would do. 347 Stroker AFR 185's, ported and polished Victor 5.0, gasket match custom cam 1.6 rr's 30lb Injectors 76mm C&L 70mm TB Holley adjustable fuel regulator and a 255lpr pump D&D Tubular K-member and A-Arms & coil overs Flaming river manual steering Windage Tray Long tube headers Fuel cell Rear seat delete Battery in back A/C delete Smog delete Underdrive pulleys Flex-a-lite fan 8pt Roll cage O/R H-pipe 3.73 gears 31 Spline axles SSM lift bars and uppers Quad shocks removed (Hoping to fit 315's in the rear) Moroso "trick" rear springs 50/50 drag shocks Wade __________________ 79 Hatch: NA 347, Stage 2 Canfield Heads, Victor JR. Intake, Blueprinted Holley 750 HP, Solid Roller Cam, Shooting for 10's on motor 93 LX: Tremec, dual friction clutch, fms flywheel, Hedman shorties, O/R H-pipe Ricer hater's club member #49

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