Tire Questions For Daily Driver

stangsrule · 05-02-2004, 10:59 PM

I am trying to decide which tires to go with on my 500hp daily driver. I have a handling suspension and have it lowered 1 1/2. I was going to get the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's but have been told they no longer make them. Is this true? I see the Tire Rack still has them but not sure for how long... I am also considering the Kumho ECSTA Supra 712's, the BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW and the Yokohoma AVS ES100's.

I drive rain or shine so wet traction is important to me. I would also like some input as to what size would be best. I have stock Pony wheels and am currently running 245/45/16 and 245/50/16 Nitto DR in the rear. I am thinking about going with a decent handling tire all around this time. Any and all input/suggestions are welcome. Thanks in advance!

sgwinn · 05-03-2004, 11:43 AM

I just got the Yoko's in 245/45/17. Love them. However, they are not supposed to be used in snow. wet traction is good. price is right too. that was main reason i went with them.

Dave_mustang_50 · 05-03-2004, 03:58 PM

I think traction is gonna be hard to find whatever tire you choose. I love my Nittos, great in the rain and good traction. I take it your looking for more mileage than the Nittos are giving?

Hozer 88GTConv · 05-03-2004, 09:08 PM

I've had KDW's for 18 months and they are the baddest tire I've had.
I take on ramps at 90 (I'm not bragging, I don't street race much b/c I think it is stupid)
It rains here a lot, I have never had any probs with them getting squirelly.
Still plenty of tread left too.
Great tire.
Got mine from www.tirerack.com
Good Luck....

Comatose · 05-03-2004, 10:43 PM

Goodyear HP's or HP Ultras, they wear very well, excellent wet traction, good road feel, and quiet on the highway.

Hethj7 · 05-05-2004, 11:58 PM

I had a set of Yokahama's that wore very well, although they weren't much for putting power to the pavement, which with the power you have, most tires will struggle with that.

stangsrule · 05-06-2004, 03:59 AM

I am still trying to decide but do appreciate the input guys...

Dave_mustang_50, I have been very impressed with my Nitto drag radials as far as traction goes, even bald they do decent in the rain, but you are correct and I am looking for a little more mileage, plus I would like to see how it handles with decent performance/handling tires all around.

Anybody else?

Dave_mustang_50 · 05-06-2004, 05:36 AM

Let us know when you decide on a tire, how well they work out. I`m not sure what the mileage is but there is a new Nitto for road racing. Not sure how well they hook up though.

red82gt · 05-09-2004, 01:56 AM

I love my regular 555 nittos, way better than my Yoko AVS's. They're cheap from discount tire direct too. I had a set of 712's and they were junk. I found myself trying to wear them out faster just to get rid of them.

MiracleMax · 05-09-2004, 09:18 PM

Or how 'bout Michelin Pilot Sport A/S's if you want a competent all season tire (pricey though)

The Bridgestone Potenza RE750 actually out handles the BFG KDW in the wet.

The KDW and the RE750 more than likely out handle the Pilot A/S since they aren't designed as all season tires

my .02

Green ghost · 05-10-2004, 03:46 AM

I went with Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 245-50-16. I have no problems with em.

Nixon1 · 05-10-2004, 09:51 AM

As someone else mentioned, the Goodyear Eagle HP Ultra Pluses are good tires. When I first got them, I could load the car up to 1200 (max. I could get on a stock stall), and put my foot to the floor and she would not break the tires. But a warning, NEVER do burnouts with these. I did and I completely destroyed the tires' traction qualities. They spin and spin and spin now. On my employee discount I paid around $140 a pop for a 245-50-16.

The 712's look like good tires, although they might not wear too long....I think they have a lower tread count.
The T/A's are badass tires...

05-02-2004, 10:59 PM	#1
stangsrule Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Indiana Posts: 512	Tire Questions For Daily Driver I am trying to decide which tires to go with on my 500hp daily driver. I have a handling suspension and have it lowered 1 1/2. I was going to get the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's but have been told they no longer make them. Is this true? I see the Tire Rack still has them but not sure for how long... I am also considering the Kumho ECSTA Supra 712's, the BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW and the Yokohoma AVS ES100's. I drive rain or shine so wet traction is important to me. I would also like some input as to what size would be best. I have stock Pony wheels and am currently running 245/45/16 and 245/50/16 Nitto DR in the rear. I am thinking about going with a decent handling tire all around this time. Any and all input/suggestions are welcome. Thanks in advance! __________________ 92GT Lowered with Ebiach's and Koni's, Kenny Brown subframe connectors, lower G-brace and jacking rails. BBK upper and lower control arms, polyurethane bushings all around and Ken Bell blower, ram-air, 80mm mass air, SMC Alky Injection kit, J&S Knock Gaurd, TwEECer RT and a bunch of other stuff!

05-03-2004, 11:43 AM	#2
sgwinn Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 84	I just got the Yoko's in 245/45/17. Love them. However, they are not supposed to be used in snow. wet traction is good. price is right too. that was main reason i went with them. __________________ 1990 LX 5.0 Cobra Intake K&N filter ET 15.0 Yokohama ES 100. Cobra R 17's DynoMax SS's Pro 5.0 More to come

05-03-2004, 03:58 PM	#3
Dave_mustang_50 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 483	I think traction is gonna be hard to find whatever tire you choose. I love my Nittos, great in the rain and good traction. I take it your looking for more mileage than the Nittos are giving? __________________ 1969 Mach 1 351C with a c6(for now) Sold 92 Rag Top GT Procharged & intercooled DSS 331 LC Holley Systemax 2 Intake, Edelbrock RPM Heads,E 303 ,blow thru air meter, race bypass, 42 pph injectors,65mm tb,1.7 rr, Mac long tube headers w/off road H pipe, Force 2 catback, TKO,Pro 5.0, K&N, Alum DS,3 core radiator, subframe connectors,3.73`s, Nitto DR`s and a Heavy Foot.

05-03-2004, 09:08 PM	#4
Hozer 88GTConv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 706	KDW's... I've had KDW's for 18 months and they are the baddest tire I've had. I take on ramps at 90 (I'm not bragging, I don't street race much b/c I think it is stupid) It rains here a lot, I have never had any probs with them getting squirelly. Still plenty of tread left too. Great tire. Got mine from www.tirerack.com Good Luck.... __________________ 1988 GT Convertible 331 10:1 TW heads, GT-40 intake, MSD, TRW flattops, B Cam w/ 1.7's, MAC exhaust, 24's, 70 TB, 76 MAF, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, Koni's, Anderson PMS, Wideband 02, yatta, yatta... One week with new motor, two speeding tickets...joy

05-03-2004, 10:43 PM	#5
Comatose Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Goldendale, WA, USA Posts: 84	Goodyear HP's or HP Ultras, they wear very well, excellent wet traction, good road feel, and quiet on the highway. __________________ Jeremiah 1986 Mustang GT K&N Filter, Removed Air Silencer, Black Magic Fan, 65mm Explorer TB, 110lph BBK Fuel Pump, F/M Force II Cat -Back, O/R h-pipe, U/D's Timing@14* 1986 Mustang LX SSP--new project car AOD, 3.27's, Dumps, 238k miles

05-05-2004, 11:58 PM	#6
Hethj7 Mizzou Tigers Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: weston, MO United States Posts: 1,455	I had a set of Yokahama's that wore very well, although they weren't much for putting power to the pavement, which with the power you have, most tires will struggle with that. __________________ 2006 Mustang GT 1990 LX GT-40 motor 262 horsepower, 307ft-lbs (sold but forever loved) 1998 Contour SVT Rice Haters Club Member #244

05-06-2004, 03:59 AM	#7
stangsrule Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Indiana Posts: 512	I am still trying to decide but do appreciate the input guys... Dave_mustang_50, I have been very impressed with my Nitto drag radials as far as traction goes, even bald they do decent in the rain, but you are correct and I am looking for a little more mileage, plus I would like to see how it handles with decent performance/handling tires all around. Anybody else? __________________ 92GT Lowered with Ebiach's and Koni's, Kenny Brown subframe connectors, lower G-brace and jacking rails. BBK upper and lower control arms, polyurethane bushings all around and Ken Bell blower, ram-air, 80mm mass air, SMC Alky Injection kit, J&S Knock Gaurd, TwEECer RT and a bunch of other stuff!

05-06-2004, 05:36 AM	#8
Dave_mustang_50 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 483	Let us know when you decide on a tire, how well they work out. I`m not sure what the mileage is but there is a new Nitto for road racing. Not sure how well they hook up though. __________________ 1969 Mach 1 351C with a c6(for now) Sold 92 Rag Top GT Procharged & intercooled DSS 331 LC Holley Systemax 2 Intake, Edelbrock RPM Heads,E 303 ,blow thru air meter, race bypass, 42 pph injectors,65mm tb,1.7 rr, Mac long tube headers w/off road H pipe, Force 2 catback, TKO,Pro 5.0, K&N, Alum DS,3 core radiator, subframe connectors,3.73`s, Nitto DR`s and a Heavy Foot.

05-09-2004, 01:56 AM	#9
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	I love my regular 555 nittos, way better than my Yoko AVS's. They're cheap from discount tire direct too. I had a set of 712's and they were junk. I found myself trying to wear them out faster just to get rid of them. __________________ 393W: AFR 205's, hydraulic roller, TKO600.

05-09-2004, 09:18 PM	#10
MiracleMax Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Hayes, Va, USA Posts: 798	Or how 'bout Michelin Pilot Sport A/S's if you want a competent all season tire (pricey though) The Bridgestone Potenza RE750 actually out handles the BFG KDW in the wet. The KDW and the RE750 more than likely out handle the Pilot A/S since they aren't designed as all season tires my .02 __________________ 2002 5M GT (99% stock) 1991 5M LX (30% stock) patiently awaiting my satin silver 07 Mach 1, and don't forget the shaker

05-10-2004, 03:46 AM	#11
Green ghost Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Glendora, CA. Posts: 2	I went with Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 245-50-16. I have no problems with em. __________________ BBK Headders, Bassani X-pipe, Flowmaster 40 series, Eibach drag springs w/ air bag, Edelbrock shocks, Tokico struts, MM adj lca, MM C/C plates, MAC CAI, Black magic Electric fan, 180* T-stat, Edelbrock 70mm egr & TB, Fluidyne aluminum radiator, Hurst shifter 3:27 gears (soon converting to 3:73) "Secret weapon parts not installed yet" Best time 9.302@ 76.14 irwindale speedway 1/8mi. 8/14/03 Greenghost SOCALHORSEPOWER MEMBER

05-10-2004, 09:51 AM	#12
Nixon1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 432	As someone else mentioned, the Goodyear Eagle HP Ultra Pluses are good tires. When I first got them, I could load the car up to 1200 (max. I could get on a stock stall), and put my foot to the floor and she would not break the tires. But a warning, NEVER do burnouts with these. I did and I completely destroyed the tires' traction qualities. They spin and spin and spin now. On my employee discount I paid around $140 a pop for a 245-50-16. The 712's look like good tires, although they might not wear too long....I think they have a lower tread count. The T/A's are badass tires... __________________ '91 Mustang GT 5.0 AOD Daily Driver Current stats: NEW 302 short block, E-303 cam (@.050, 220/220, .498/.498, 110 degrees), 1.6 roller rockers, Performer RPM heads (aluminum, 1.9/1.6, 60cc chambers), Cobra intake, Granatelli 75mm MAF, Billet AFPR, Equal-Length Shorty Headers, Off-Road X Pipe, Flowmasters, 4.10 POSI 13.73 at 103.8, ~2.2 60'

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