9000 Rpm V8??! - Page 2

silver_pilate · 04-27-2002, 01:15 PM

Ah....Puerto Rico. I was mentally running through the states in my head and just couldn't bring to mind anyplace matching "PR."

--nathan

Unit 5302 · 04-27-2002, 01:24 PM

Sustained 8500-9000rpms? LOL, hell no! I was making fun of the idea. My engine held together, luckily for me, and it didn't see that kind of rpm for more than a split second as the howling of tire and slipping of clutch allowed me to hit the clutch again a hair after it grabbed.

Mora, you're a total idiot. Weight doesn't affect top speed worth mentioning. It affects acceleration. Using a fox body Mustang for a top speed run? Are you an idiot? (Wait, I've already answered that question, see reference at the beginning of this paragraph.) The Fox Mustang is a brick. It'll take better than 700hp to hit 200mph with it, regardless of weight. Go read a physics book.

BilLster · 04-27-2002, 02:42 PM

ok im from canada so im confused where we do top speed stuff we got about 300 miles of open road . where in P R would you have the space to hit 180 and slow down on the island ?

im not disbilieving you I just dont know much about where your from except Bacardi comes from there .

Ps a power adder will help you get to the increased RPMS with 3/08 i hit 173 mph the car had more but i didnt. ( oh yeah i dont know how accurate the radar gun the guy had set up was ive never been on that side of one.

Stroked408 · 06-13-2002, 09:48 PM

How much hp are you planning on making? That is a question you need to be asking yourself. Rpm's get a big huge cam somewhere in the 800 lift range,about 310 duration a shot of vodka so you do not feel the pain in your wallet when your motor comes apart.

Seriously if you want that kind of rpm there are a few calls you can make. Bennet racing is one,Kuntz and Co. is another,Keith Craft is a good company.

Now to turn the rpm's you are looking for,just the bottom end alone will cost close to 9-10k,that is dollars by the way.
To flow the air to make hp at 9000rpm's it is going to take a set of serious race heads like Yates,Brodix,Glidden Victors.
Intake just start at a Super Victor and work your way up,sheetmetal or something along that line,oh by the way most serious Super Victor intakes that have been ported cost in the neighborhood of 1200-1600 dollars.
The valvetrain,hmmm give Cam Motion or Comp Cams or one of the other cam companies a call.9000rpm's wonder how much would a knife edged crank cost?
Heck at least you do not have to pay a fortune for the block Dart makes a block now that cost 2 thousand dollars fully machined.
Do you have extra valvesprings and lifters,cam bearings? You will need to replace those regularly.
If you have not noticed by now I am being sarcastic,a 9000rpm motor belongs no where near the street,not even on cruise nights,a 9000rpm motor is serious business,you plan on turning 9000rpm's I hope you have 10,000rpm's brakes.
It is a lot of more sane ways to make hp,then turning the piss out of your motor,you can make 450 NA with a carb and still drive it on the street and keep the revs below 6500,best thing to do call around and ask,tell the builder what you want,your goals,and how the car will be used and most of them will guide you in the right direction,will they try to pedal a certain component? yes they will,but throw out options to get a reaction from them,you will be able to tell if they pushing the latest wonder component.

Good Luck with your goals,but be smart about a high rpm screamer for the street

RPM427 · 06-14-2002, 12:06 PM

I once reved my stock 89 to 7k for a brief second. I was going up a steep hill in third gear, I had my hand resting on the shifter and accedently poped it into nuetral while i had the gas floored. No damage but it didn't sound so good.

mysweetlx · 06-14-2002, 01:15 PM

LMFAO......this is one funny ***** post. There should be a section on his site for mustang humor. 9k rpm.....hahahahahaha
peanut butters flying in figure 8 flight patterns....hahahahaha......I'm glad I checked this thread out.

RPM427 · 06-14-2002, 01:58 PM

How fast do you want to go? With 3:73 gears, 26 inch tall tires, you can hit 200 mph @6500 RPM in 5th gear. If you wanted a 9k RPM engine, you would need to spend about $20,000 on the engine. Ever see those NA pro mod engines? theres a Probe [powered by a destroked 351 (302 ci) pushing about 730 horses at 9,300 RPM. It costs $75,000 to biuld an engine like that. And he has to check the valve springs in between each run, and replaces the crank/rod/cam bearings every 50 runs. Now, do you really think its worth the money to buy a 9k+ rpm engine for the street?

Check out bennett racing, they make a short block that will take 8k rpm and 2500 horses for $10,950. Then add in the cost of cylinder heads that will make power at that RPM level (at least 400 cfm intake) thats another $8,500. Then all the other components. Do the math.

RPM427 · 06-14-2002, 02:12 PM

If top speed racing is what you are interested in, check out the cars competing in the Open Road Race Challenges. The unlimited class average 190+ on closed down sections of highway in Nevada/Arizona. Don't reinvent the wheel, check out what they are using, and i doubt they rev past 6500

The Deuce · 06-15-2002, 12:15 PM

Forget all this, just talk to radical GT. He traps something ungodly like 150+ in the 1/8th. Steal his motor, change the gears, and you should be fine. Seriously though, the motor is Pro built with a two stage shot. And its big. Do the cops not care because you all just fall into the ocean at the end of the race??

srv1 · 06-15-2002, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Deuce
Do the cops not care because you all just fall into the ocean at the end of the race??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUNNY AS HELL!

Stang Runner · 06-15-2002, 02:36 PM

9Kand the street will not heppen less you have about 10K a month to spend on it... you dont need that Rpms to be fast heck a 7-7.5K Motor will Make tons of power and be faster then Many Powered added cars if done good. you say top end well get Like 3.73 gears and wind it out that will have to Booking!!!! How Much Hose you looking at getting????? 6k In 5th is about 180Mph...ture a ( k reving motor will Make more power But the Cost GOES WAY WAY up fast!!!

shadowblue89 · 06-15-2002, 04:48 PM

You guy's have me lmao here at work and getting funny looks because of it.
I agree with mysweetlx. We need a humor forum.

Quote:

Do the cops not care because you all just fall into the ocean at the end of the race??
Peanut butters flying in figure 8 flight patterns.

Oldschoolpony · 06-15-2002, 09:00 PM

I couldnt make it all the way through the posts, I was to busy laughing

. But dam if you want cheap top end ..... build a late 460 get some SCJ heads(cheaper than svo) runn some nice compression 11 to 1 and stick a 273 gear in it, Watch the card twist hehe. Ohh and tall tires

Stroked408 · 06-15-2002, 11:05 PM

I thought "PR" stood for public relations?

04-27-2002, 01:15 PM	#1
silver_pilate DURKA DURKA!! Join Date: Sep 1997 Location: Lubbock, TX...(TX panhandle) Posts: 1,418	Ah....Puerto Rico. I was mentally running through the states in my head and just couldn't bring to mind anyplace matching "PR." --nathan __________________ '91 GT, Coast 347, 9.5:1 compression, full intake, Wolverine 1087 cam, exhaust, Keith Craft ported Windsor Jr. Irons (235 cfm intake, 195 cfm exhaust), AOD, PI 3500 converter, Lentech valve body, 3.73's (4.10's in the works), and Yokohama ES100's out back. Daily Car: '04 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6MT

04-27-2002, 02:42 PM	#3
BilLster Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ontario canada Posts: 446	ok im from canada so im confused where we do top speed stuff we got about 300 miles of open road . where in P R would you have the space to hit 180 and slow down on the island ? im not disbilieving you I just dont know much about where your from except Bacardi comes from there . Ps a power adder will help you get to the increased RPMS with 3/08 i hit 173 mph the car had more but i didnt. ( oh yeah i dont know how accurate the radar gun the guy had set up was ive never been on that side of one. __________________ 89 with 331 t3'/t4 hybrids. upr Suspention worked out finnaly . 9.89 144 mph .

06-13-2002, 09:48 PM	#4
Stroked408 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southwest Posts: 131	ultimate question How much hp are you planning on making? That is a question you need to be asking yourself. Rpm's get a big huge cam somewhere in the 800 lift range,about 310 duration a shot of vodka so you do not feel the pain in your wallet when your motor comes apart. Seriously if you want that kind of rpm there are a few calls you can make. Bennet racing is one,Kuntz and Co. is another,Keith Craft is a good company. Now to turn the rpm's you are looking for,just the bottom end alone will cost close to 9-10k,that is dollars by the way. To flow the air to make hp at 9000rpm's it is going to take a set of serious race heads like Yates,Brodix,Glidden Victors. Intake just start at a Super Victor and work your way up,sheetmetal or something along that line,oh by the way most serious Super Victor intakes that have been ported cost in the neighborhood of 1200-1600 dollars. The valvetrain,hmmm give Cam Motion or Comp Cams or one of the other cam companies a call.9000rpm's wonder how much would a knife edged crank cost? Heck at least you do not have to pay a fortune for the block Dart makes a block now that cost 2 thousand dollars fully machined. Do you have extra valvesprings and lifters,cam bearings? You will need to replace those regularly. If you have not noticed by now I am being sarcastic,a 9000rpm motor belongs no where near the street,not even on cruise nights,a 9000rpm motor is serious business,you plan on turning 9000rpm's I hope you have 10,000rpm's brakes. It is a lot of more sane ways to make hp,then turning the piss out of your motor,you can make 450 NA with a carb and still drive it on the street and keep the revs below 6500,best thing to do call around and ask,tell the builder what you want,your goals,and how the car will be used and most of them will guide you in the right direction,will they try to pedal a certain component? yes they will,but throw out options to get a reaction from them,you will be able to tell if they pushing the latest wonder component. Good Luck with your goals,but be smart about a high rpm screamer for the street __________________ Deeper,Harder,Faster Stage Deeper Launch Harder Go Faster

06-14-2002, 12:06 PM	#5
RPM427 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Huntington NY Posts: 573	I once reved my stock 89 to 7k for a brief second. I was going up a steep hill in third gear, I had my hand resting on the shifter and accedently poped it into nuetral while i had the gas floored. No damage but it didn't sound so good. __________________ -1993 Mustang, 900rwhp 03-04 cobra based 4v swap, full Griggs setup, project underway -1994 Ranger w/ 427cid windsor (daily beater) check it out!

06-14-2002, 01:15 PM	#6
mysweetlx Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 248	LMFAO......this is one funny ***** post. There should be a section on his site for mustang humor. 9k rpm.....hahahahahaha peanut butters flying in figure 8 flight patterns....hahahahaha......I'm glad I checked this thread out. __________________ Damn this thing's fast!

04-27-2002, 01:24 PM	#2
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Sustained 8500-9000rpms? LOL, hell no! I was making fun of the idea. My engine held together, luckily for me, and it didn't see that kind of rpm for more than a split second as the howling of tire and slipping of clutch allowed me to hit the clutch again a hair after it grabbed. Mora, you're a total idiot. Weight doesn't affect top speed worth mentioning. It affects acceleration. Using a fox body Mustang for a top speed run? Are you an idiot? (Wait, I've already answered that question, see reference at the beginning of this paragraph.) The Fox Mustang is a brick. It'll take better than 700hp to hit 200mph with it, regardless of weight. Go read a physics book.

06-14-2002, 01:58 PM	#7
RPM427 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Huntington NY Posts: 573	How fast do you want to go? With 3:73 gears, 26 inch tall tires, you can hit 200 mph @6500 RPM in 5th gear. If you wanted a 9k RPM engine, you would need to spend about $20,000 on the engine. Ever see those NA pro mod engines? theres a Probe [powered by a destroked 351 (302 ci) pushing about 730 horses at 9,300 RPM. It costs $75,000 to biuld an engine like that. And he has to check the valve springs in between each run, and replaces the crank/rod/cam bearings every 50 runs. Now, do you really think its worth the money to buy a 9k+ rpm engine for the street? Check out bennett racing, they make a short block that will take 8k rpm and 2500 horses for $10,950. Then add in the cost of cylinder heads that will make power at that RPM level (at least 400 cfm intake) thats another $8,500. Then all the other components. Do the math. __________________ -1993 Mustang, 900rwhp 03-04 cobra based 4v swap, full Griggs setup, project underway -1994 Ranger w/ 427cid windsor (daily beater) check it out!

06-14-2002, 02:12 PM	#8
RPM427 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Huntington NY Posts: 573	If top speed racing is what you are interested in, check out the cars competing in the Open Road Race Challenges. The unlimited class average 190+ on closed down sections of highway in Nevada/Arizona. Don't reinvent the wheel, check out what they are using, and i doubt they rev past 6500 __________________ -1993 Mustang, 900rwhp 03-04 cobra based 4v swap, full Griggs setup, project underway -1994 Ranger w/ 427cid windsor (daily beater) check it out!

06-15-2002, 12:15 PM	#9
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	Forget all this, just talk to radical GT. He traps something ungodly like 150+ in the 1/8th. Steal his motor, change the gears, and you should be fine. Seriously though, the motor is Pro built with a two stage shot. And its big. Do the cops not care because you all just fall into the ocean at the end of the race?? __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

06-15-2002, 02:36 PM	#11
Stang Runner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Walker, MI, USA Posts: 1,202	9Kand the street will not heppen less you have about 10K a month to spend on it... you dont need that Rpms to be fast heck a 7-7.5K Motor will Make tons of power and be faster then Many Powered added cars if done good. you say top end well get Like 3.73 gears and wind it out that will have to Booking!!!! How Much Hose you looking at getting????? 6k In 5th is about 180Mph...ture a ( k reving motor will Make more power But the Cost GOES WAY WAY up fast!!! __________________ Engine: steel mounts, Under drive pulleys, K&N, GT-40 Intake ported Lower, No power steering, No A/C, Mac cold intake, 65MM TB, 255 Fuel pump, 24's, AFR 165 58cc, Rocker Arms 1.7with the stock Cam, 1 5/8 short headers, offRoad X-pipe Drive Train: 3.55, T-5 with a Pro 5.0 shifter 12.656@107.71MPH See It at www.T-racing.com/mustang.htm

06-15-2002, 09:00 PM	#13
Oldschoolpony Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Gainsville,Fl Posts: 229	I couldnt make it all the way through the posts, I was to busy laughing . But dam if you want cheap top end ..... build a late 460 get some SCJ heads(cheaper than svo) runn some nice compression 11 to 1 and stick a 273 gear in it, Watch the card twist hehe. Ohh and tall tires __________________ http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?1546

06-15-2002, 11:05 PM	#14
Stroked408 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southwest Posts: 131	PR????????????? I thought "PR" stood for public relations? __________________ Deeper,Harder,Faster Stage Deeper Launch Harder Go Faster

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