New T-bird

95GTS · 03-13-2001, 07:10 PM

Some may or may not have already seen this car. Kinda ugly if you ask me. And that engine looks very complicated to work on. I thought the 4.6 was bad enough. A 3.9L V8, 32V DOHC 252hp at 6100rpm, 267lb-ft. torque at 4300rpm. All aluminum.

Retail Price Range $34,965 - $38,465

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1996 Mustang GTS <---Must sell. $10,900 obo 56,000 miles

Moxie · 03-14-2001, 02:06 PM

Actually, it's my understanding from a local Ford engineer that the 3.9L is more efficient than the 4.6, and the folks at powertrain development consider it a better engine. Or so they tell me. Makes me wonder if it will wind up in the Mustang, since the next version will be on the same chassis as the T-bird.

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Lizard King · 03-14-2001, 02:14 PM

Mathematically speaking the 3.9 DOHC is not as effiecent as the 4.6 DOHC

4.6 hits about 67.4HP per Liter
3.9 hits about 64.61

Unit 5302 · 03-14-2001, 03:25 PM

Doesn't the 3.9L use hemispherical or semi hemispherical heads? Course it may be just canted valving for those who have a problem with "semi hemi" being used as a term relating to canted valving.

I thought I heard something about that, if that's true the performance potential of the engine should be very impressive.

Anybody else heard that, or are neurons in my brain arcing across each other?

95GTS · 03-14-2001, 06:47 PM

Maybe the 3.9L DOHC, you are saying, is more effecient than the 4.6 SOHC?

Anyways, I hope it puts out more hp than that if it does go into the GT. But, from what I've read elsewhere, it will not be used in the GT but the GT will be the new S197 chassis.

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1996 Mustang GTS <---Must sell. $10,900 obo 56,000 miles

69fastback · 03-16-2001, 05:10 AM

personaly i love the car. I think it looks great I got to see one at the 1999 fabouls fords forever it was awesome.

Jaydee · 03-16-2001, 08:48 AM

I also like the new bird - however..... for that kind of $$$$ I could put a very nicely restored 57 bird vert and a well modded 5.0 in my garage - must be my old fashion way of thinking.

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1965 K code coupe - numbers matching - restoration ongoing. 1987 LX notch, 5 spd, stock heads (minor porting) and intake, 65mmTB, 3.55's, ram air, pulleys, shorty's, 2.5" exhaust with cats 13.89@100.25

tireburner163 · 03-16-2001, 12:17 PM

It sucks. I was looking for a Vette killed and got a Civic killer, ok ok maybe its faster that a Civic, ok I got a Sorla killer. Not to mention it has the itemidation factor of a VW bug

red82gt · 03-16-2001, 02:54 PM

I think it would be gorgeous with different rims. The aftermarket will make a clone of the roots type blower used on the supercharged version of the Jaguar XK8 and soon there will be 400hp birds flying in the skys.

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GT-40 heads (ported, polished, + milled), B303 cam, 1.7rr's, JE pistons, Offy intake, Carter AFB 625cfm carb, Flowtech 1 5/8" shortys, Flowtech X-pipe, MAC Flowpath exhaust, MAC pulleys, 373's, subframes, Eibachs+Tokicos, B+M ripper, FMS Clutch, Zoom Quadrant+cable, 17" CSA Ultra rims, 235/45ZR17 Yokohama AVS S4's, MSD 6A ignition+coil, FMS 9mm wires, Carbed, Naturally Aspirated, and Nasty!

03-13-2001, 07:10 PM	#1
95GTS Git jiggy Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: MO USA Posts: 865	New T-bird Some may or may not have already seen this car. Kinda ugly if you ask me. And that engine looks very complicated to work on. I thought the 4.6 was bad enough. A 3.9L V8, 32V DOHC 252hp at 6100rpm, 267lb-ft. torque at 4300rpm. All aluminum. Retail Price Range $34,965 - $38,465 ------------------ 1996 Mustang GTS <---Must sell. $10,900 obo 56,000 miles

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03-14-2001, 02:06 PM	#2
Moxie Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Plymouth, MI Posts: 254	Actually, it's my understanding from a local Ford engineer that the 3.9L is more efficient than the 4.6, and the folks at powertrain development consider it a better engine. Or so they tell me. Makes me wonder if it will wind up in the Mustang, since the next version will be on the same chassis as the T-bird. ------------------ Moxie Racing The Nitrous Oxide Information Site

03-14-2001, 02:14 PM	#3
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	Mathematically speaking the 3.9 DOHC is not as effiecent as the 4.6 DOHC 4.6 hits about 67.4HP per Liter 3.9 hits about 64.61

03-14-2001, 03:25 PM	#4
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Doesn't the 3.9L use hemispherical or semi hemispherical heads? Course it may be just canted valving for those who have a problem with "semi hemi" being used as a term relating to canted valving. I thought I heard something about that, if that's true the performance potential of the engine should be very impressive. Anybody else heard that, or are neurons in my brain arcing across each other?

03-14-2001, 06:47 PM	#5
95GTS Git jiggy Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: MO USA Posts: 865	Maybe the 3.9L DOHC, you are saying, is more effecient than the 4.6 SOHC? Anyways, I hope it puts out more hp than that if it does go into the GT. But, from what I've read elsewhere, it will not be used in the GT but the GT will be the new S197 chassis. ------------------ 1996 Mustang GTS <---Must sell. $10,900 obo 56,000 miles

03-16-2001, 05:10 AM	#6
69fastback IRAQ VET Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: high desert California Posts: 1,480	personaly i love the car. I think it looks great I got to see one at the 1999 fabouls fords forever it was awesome.

03-16-2001, 08:48 AM	#7
Jaydee Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Conn. Posts: 220	I also like the new bird - however..... for that kind of $$$$ I could put a very nicely restored 57 bird vert and a well modded 5.0 in my garage - must be my old fashion way of thinking. ------------------ 1965 K code coupe - numbers matching - restoration ongoing. 1987 LX notch, 5 spd, stock heads (minor porting) and intake, 65mmTB, 3.55's, ram air, pulleys, shorty's, 2.5" exhaust with cats 13.89@100.25

03-16-2001, 12:17 PM	#8
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	It sucks. I was looking for a Vette killed and got a Civic killer, ok ok maybe its faster that a Civic, ok I got a Sorla killer. Not to mention it has the itemidation factor of a VW bug

03-16-2001, 02:54 PM	#9
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	I think it would be gorgeous with different rims. The aftermarket will make a clone of the roots type blower used on the supercharged version of the Jaguar XK8 and soon there will be 400hp birds flying in the skys. ------------------ GT-40 heads (ported, polished, + milled), B303 cam, 1.7rr's, JE pistons, Offy intake, Carter AFB 625cfm carb, Flowtech 1 5/8" shortys, Flowtech X-pipe, MAC Flowpath exhaust, MAC pulleys, 373's, subframes, Eibachs+Tokicos, B+M ripper, FMS Clutch, Zoom Quadrant+cable, 17" CSA Ultra rims, 235/45ZR17 Yokohama AVS S4's, MSD 6A ignition+coil, FMS 9mm wires, Carbed, Naturally Aspirated, and Nasty!