Do Not Street Race At Port Kells!!! - Page 3

Mustangbelle306 · 04-08-2002, 11:49 PM

I agree with both of you. Its crap, and it will eventually lead to many unhappy citizens, which history has proven repeatedly is NOT a good thing...

Unit 5302 · 04-09-2002, 08:18 PM

Okay. Let me just make this plain and simple. I've attended city council meetings. There have been no laws to make street racing a felony in Minnesota that I know of. It's not my job to write to legislators in Florida.

Fried Chicken, I'm not the extremist here. I'm not the liberal. You're the one in favor of putting everybody in jail for no good reason, and by the last few posts, I would certainly say I'm in the majority. When car enthusiasts go after other car enthusiasts, that's when it gets really sickening.

I'm not nearly as angry as you think I am. I find your arguements mostly laughable and uneducated. You're just one of those walls I'm referring to in my post above. By the way, you can officially quit quoting United States government policy and law enforcement since you don't live here

I think those of us who DO live here have a much better understanding of how things work in this country than somebody on the outside.

By the way, please do me the favor of telling me you've taken off fast from a stoplight sometime to feel the push back into the seat the GT gives. You're guilty of felony street racing here in the state of Florida, in the country of the United States of America.

srv 1, I have spent very little time addressing your Unit is all POed posts because I'm really not. I'm a little ticked off that people don't take the time to think about topics rather than just pointing out the outcome of certain events.

Mr 5 0 · 04-10-2002, 12:15 AM

At the very real risk of seeing pigs fly overhead and hell freezing over, I have to agree with Unit on this issue.

Nothing original I can add to his cogent comments here but this affection for 'Nanny-Government' from friedchicken is truly depressing.

The world is dangerous and driving is a risk. Get used to it. Everyone speeds. You could get killed going to work tomorrow. That's what living entails; risk. Is this a revelation to anyone over 12?

It's stating the obvious to say that 'street racing' in crowded areas at peak traffic times is insane and should be punished but these 'crackdowns' are political hype from politicians and cops who simply want to be seen as 'doing something' when a bunch of teenagers get killed in some horrific crash while racing. Unnecessary and mostly fruitless but it looks good to concerned parents and the nervous types.

Punish the reckless and the stupid driver but save the Big Brother Protecting Us crap and the 'Government Knows Best' attitude that seeks to regulate and restrict every human activity, especially if it involves cars.

Canada is basically a socialist society and I assume those from that area find socialism to be attractive as they embrace the nanny-state model. Fine. This is America.

We treasure our freedoms and don't want or need any Big Brothers to watch over us...for our own good of course. Stuff that.

I leave further discussion to others as this thread is probably close to running it's course at this late date. I'm sure Unit and others can hold up the anti-socialist government argument and hopefully few performance car fans will willingly embrace more police/government restrictions on racing in general, while understanding that stupid, reckless driving is still just that and not condoned by most anyone.

Friedchicken · 04-10-2002, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unit 5302

Fried Chicken, I'm not the extremist here. I'm not the liberal. You're the one in favor of putting everybody in jail for no good reason, and by the last few posts, I would certainly say I'm in the majority. When car enthusiasts go after other car enthusiasts, that's when it gets really sickening.

Just to clarify. I never said that you were an extremist- I said that the measures that they were taking with your examples were.

As for your question about whether I stoplight race or not in my GT? I did some solo I racing in my 98 cobra on weekends and since I traded it in, I still miss the power and grunt on the road. So I got another V8. Don't believe me? Too bad. I am in no way going to jeapordize (sp) my career with doing something stupid. My choice, I know. I just wish that more people considered the consequesnces before the get behind the wheel.

Mr 5.0, sounds like they have gone too far just for impressions sake. Nothing I can do about that except to keep my name out of the paper. Image is everything with the government and the police, but that is nothing new here.

I hope they make it easier for the enthusiasts to take part in what they want to do responsably- in all hobbies/sports/activites... but that's going to take alot of voices.

srv1 · 04-10-2002, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unit 5302

srv 1, I have spent very little time addressing your Unit is all POed posts because I'm really not. I'm a little ticked off that people don't take the time to think about topics rather than just pointing out the outcome of certain events.

boo-hoo, your no fun! what topic you want to talk about? want me to make a thread on a "useful" topic? naa. i leave mostly for others to do that. i put the "F" in fun around here. without me, you guys would be talking about "who sank my battleship".

well you never answered me yet on a serious question. did you write to Congress or your local legislatures about these issues? well did you?.....i still hear the crickets......

jetuomi · 04-10-2002, 10:42 PM

1) cnn sucks; the media is terrible; and many ignorant people just eat it up, have no opinion of their own, are we all evolving to mindless drones? (do TV's really use beta-band emissions to reduce our neurological abilities?) haha

2) I will get mad at any ricer that gets me into trouble from now on like the trouble they caused at a torontostreetracing.com meet at Yorkdale last year. I was pulled over and inspected at 1am cause of burnouts done 2 weeks prior in the parking lot (not by me!). then I was pulled over 2 minutes later.. I was told that I might have to take my car in for a "re-certification" cause i might be failing emissions.. only cause I said I was from up north and in school did I get out of the situation (ie: *****-ki$$ing)

unit, rock on, raise more hell please, we need more educated people like you spreading the word.. to add to units issues, up here in Canada, the gun laws are coming into effect; charging $$ to go fishing north of my hometown; can't drive snowmachine until outside of city limits; etc, etc, etc..

so, conclusion, yes, big brother is slowly tightening his grip, and many people think its comfortable..

please post more thoughts, I think as owners of stangs, we all basically subscribe to the same ideals.. shouldn't be fighting each other here..

back to exam studying, g'nite guys..

srv1 · 04-10-2002, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jetuomi
1) cnn sucks; the media is terrible; and many ignorant people just eat it up, have no opinion of their own, are we all evolving to mindless drones? (do TV's really use beta-band emissions to reduce our neurological abilities?) haha

2) I will get mad at any ricer that gets me into trouble from now on like the trouble they caused at a torontostreetracing.com meet at Yorkdale last year. I was pulled over and inspected at 1am cause of burnouts done 2 weeks prior in the parking lot (not by me!). then I was pulled over 2 minutes later.. I was told that I might have to take my car in for a "re-certification" cause i might be failing emissions.. only cause I said I was from up north and in school did I get out of the situation (ie: *****-ki$$ing)

unit, rock on, raise more hell please, we need more educated people like you spreading the word.. to add to units issues, up here in Canada, the gun laws are coming into effect; charging $$ to go fishing north of my hometown; can't drive snowmachine until outside of city limits; etc, etc, etc..

so, conclusion, yes, big brother is slowly tightening his grip, and many people think its comfortable..

please post more thoughts, I think as owners of stangs, we all basically subscribe to the same ideals.. shouldn't be fighting each other here..

back to exam studying, g'nite guys..

this guy here said it better than all of us combined without the lenghty paragraphs. good to have you on the boards.

red82gt · 04-10-2002, 11:33 PM

Thanks BowTie, I've been telling people for weeks that they are doing this, they did something similar in New York and then dressed up the Mustangs as Police Cars.

The PK races are pretty safe but the cops need to save face so they are going to take someone down to look like heroes. 90% of the public doesn't know that the PK races are a completely different ball game than racing at 41st and Oak at a traffic light.

I can't believe that they want to start seizing cars! Say someone had a short stoplight run in a brand new Cobra and the cops come after him, he realizes that he might lose his car, is he going to stop and hand the government $40 grand (Canadian)? Or is he going to make a run for it? He makesa run for it and clears out a family of 4, is that better?

As much as I don't believe in a crackdown, especially at PK I do believe that there are a lot of people who shouldn't have licenses here and shouldn't own the cars they do, heck 20 people agd 16-23 in 5 weeks! A good portion of these were in overpowered cars that their parent's bought them. If I have kids and my 16 year old wants a fast car they can get a job and earn it so then they'll have a better chance of respecting it.

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 04-11-2002, 03:07 AM

The police are trying to tell people they shouldnt get there kids fast cars(they said hondas and acuras.... HAHAHAHA!!!!!!), or even let the kids take out mommy/daddys fast cars now.
I find this complete bull****, it is just the kids that own the movie Fast And The Furious that drive this way, i know, as i own the fastest car in the school parking lot, and i probably drive the best(I have the most respect for my car, ex. not speeding in stupid areas). at our school, only the kids with the imports think there hot **** and peel out around every corner. people need to learn respect for there cars, and know that there is a time and a place for fast driving and burnouts, the drag strip.

This has to be the longest thread i have ever started!!!

keep it going

(p.s. if what i just wrote made no sense, deal with it

)

04-10-2002, 12:15 AM	#43
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	Racing and government At the very real risk of seeing pigs fly overhead and hell freezing over, I have to agree with Unit on this issue. Nothing original I can add to his cogent comments here but this affection for 'Nanny-Government' from friedchicken is truly depressing. The world is dangerous and driving is a risk. Get used to it. Everyone speeds. You could get killed going to work tomorrow. That's what living entails; risk. Is this a revelation to anyone over 12? It's stating the obvious to say that 'street racing' in crowded areas at peak traffic times is insane and should be punished but these 'crackdowns' are political hype from politicians and cops who simply want to be seen as 'doing something' when a bunch of teenagers get killed in some horrific crash while racing. Unnecessary and mostly fruitless but it looks good to concerned parents and the nervous types. Punish the reckless and the stupid driver but save the Big Brother Protecting Us crap and the 'Government Knows Best' attitude that seeks to regulate and restrict every human activity, especially if it involves cars. Canada is basically a socialist society and I assume those from that area find socialism to be attractive as they embrace the nanny-state model. Fine. This is America. We treasure our freedoms and don't want or need any Big Brothers to watch over us...for our own good of course. Stuff that. I leave further discussion to others as this thread is probably close to running it's course at this late date. I'm sure Unit and others can hold up the anti-socialist government argument and hopefully few performance car fans will willingly embrace more police/government restrictions on racing in general, while understanding that stupid, reckless driving is still just that and not condoned by most anyone.

04-10-2002, 10:42 PM	#46
jetuomi Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Waterloo, ON, Canada Posts: 214	my 2 cents 1) cnn sucks; the media is terrible; and many ignorant people just eat it up, have no opinion of their own, are we all evolving to mindless drones? (do TV's really use beta-band emissions to reduce our neurological abilities?) haha 2) I will get mad at any ricer that gets me into trouble from now on like the trouble they caused at a torontostreetracing.com meet at Yorkdale last year. I was pulled over and inspected at 1am cause of burnouts done 2 weeks prior in the parking lot (not by me!). then I was pulled over 2 minutes later.. I was told that I might have to take my car in for a "re-certification" cause i might be failing emissions.. only cause I said I was from up north and in school did I get out of the situation (ie: *****-ki$$ing) unit, rock on, raise more hell please, we need more educated people like you spreading the word.. to add to units issues, up here in Canada, the gun laws are coming into effect; charging $$ to go fishing north of my hometown; can't drive snowmachine until outside of city limits; etc, etc, etc.. so, conclusion, yes, big brother is slowly tightening his grip, and many people think its comfortable.. please post more thoughts, I think as owners of stangs, we all basically subscribe to the same ideals.. shouldn't be fighting each other here.. back to exam studying, g'nite guys.. __________________ 1994 GT (black on black) A few mods, click below to check out the car... My CAR

04-10-2002, 11:33 PM	#48
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	BACK TO THE LECTURE AT HAND.... Thanks BowTie, I've been telling people for weeks that they are doing this, they did something similar in New York and then dressed up the Mustangs as Police Cars. The PK races are pretty safe but the cops need to save face so they are going to take someone down to look like heroes. 90% of the public doesn't know that the PK races are a completely different ball game than racing at 41st and Oak at a traffic light. I can't believe that they want to start seizing cars! Say someone had a short stoplight run in a brand new Cobra and the cops come after him, he realizes that he might lose his car, is he going to stop and hand the government $40 grand (Canadian)? Or is he going to make a run for it? He makesa run for it and clears out a family of 4, is that better? As much as I don't believe in a crackdown, especially at PK I do believe that there are a lot of people who shouldn't have licenses here and shouldn't own the cars they do, heck 20 people agd 16-23 in 5 weeks! A good portion of these were in overpowered cars that their parent's bought them. If I have kids and my 16 year old wants a fast car they can get a job and earn it so then they'll have a better chance of respecting it. __________________ 393W: AFR 205's, hydraulic roller, TKO600.

04-11-2002, 03:07 AM	#49
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	The police are trying to tell people they shouldnt get there kids fast cars(they said hondas and acuras.... HAHAHAHA!!!!!!), or even let the kids take out mommy/daddys fast cars now. I find this complete bull**, it is just the kids that own the movie Fast And The Furious that drive this way, i know, as i own the fastest car in the school parking lot, and i probably drive the best(I have the most respect for my car, ex. not speeding in stupid areas). at our school, only the kids with the imports think there hot ** and peel out around every corner. people need to learn respect for there cars, and know that there is a time and a place for fast driving and burnouts, the drag strip. This has to be the longest thread i have ever started!!! keep it going (p.s. if what i just wrote made no sense, deal with it ) __________________ 1984 Bronco II, 36" Michelin Military Tires, 95 EFI 5.0, NP435 Tranny, NP208 Doubler, NP205 Transfer Case, Fill Size Solid Dana 44 Front End, WH Progressive Rate Rock Crawling Coils, Bronco 8.8 Rear, Skyjacker Softride Leafs, 5.13 Gears, Detroit Locker. Final Crawl Ratio Of 175:1 88 GT Best 60ft. 2.181 Best ET 14.350 Best MPH 98.01 ~WRECKED!!!!~

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04-08-2002, 11:49 PM	#41
Mustangbelle306 Yay for Chickys Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,532	I agree with both of you. Its crap, and it will eventually lead to many unhappy citizens, which history has proven repeatedly is NOT a good thing...

04-09-2002, 08:18 PM	#42
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Okay. Let me just make this plain and simple. I've attended city council meetings. There have been no laws to make street racing a felony in Minnesota that I know of. It's not my job to write to legislators in Florida. Fried Chicken, I'm not the extremist here. I'm not the liberal. You're the one in favor of putting everybody in jail for no good reason, and by the last few posts, I would certainly say I'm in the majority. When car enthusiasts go after other car enthusiasts, that's when it gets really sickening. I'm not nearly as angry as you think I am. I find your arguements mostly laughable and uneducated. You're just one of those walls I'm referring to in my post above. By the way, you can officially quit quoting United States government policy and law enforcement since you don't live here I think those of us who DO live here have a much better understanding of how things work in this country than somebody on the outside. By the way, please do me the favor of telling me you've taken off fast from a stoplight sometime to feel the push back into the seat the GT gives. You're guilty of felony street racing here in the state of Florida, in the country of the United States of America. srv 1, I have spent very little time addressing your Unit is all POed posts because I'm really not. I'm a little ticked off that people don't take the time to think about topics rather than just pointing out the outcome of certain events.