The Pledge of Allegiance!! (God or No) (A little long...Sorry)

[Mr 5 0]

Originally posted by PKRWUD

I still think it's overwhelmingly simple. Leave it the way it was. If your child, or EVERYBODIES child, wants to say Under God, or Under Ozzy for that matter, GO FOR IT! Just return the text to the way it was originally. I'm not saying this with an agnostic or athiest agenda, I'm saying this as a rationaly thinking individual. I never suggested altering anything from the way it was originally written, including the Declaration of Independence. I'm not saying that anyone is wrong for their beliefs. ALL I AM SAYING is that the pledge never should have been altered in the first place. So simple.

Chris:

I'll try again, as simply as I can put it.

The phrase 'Under God' states a fact: that the United States of America was founded 'Under God' as jimberg and I have attempted to point out but that you seem to be unable to recognize prefering to continually claim that 'it shouldn't be there' and calling that opinion 'simple'.

Call it an accomodation if you will but it the words are in there because they are factual. Those who object to hearing the word 'God' have no rational basis for their objection.

The lame attempt to call this a violation of the 'establishment clause' in our Constitution falls flat on examination. It clearly doesn't fly because saying the words 'Under God' do not constitute the 'establishment' of a national church in any way that any reasonable person could ascertain.

This lawsuit and the inane ruling by the liberal Ninth Circuit Federal Court fly in the face of reason and good judgement, as the national outcry over it proved.

It doesn't matter when the phrase 'Under God' was inserted as part of the Pledge, the fact is that it was put there by a Congress responding to the will of the people, as we do in a democracy.

It wasn't put there by the religious right, Jerry Falwell, Billy Graham, Pat Robertson or Republicans, it was put there by the will of the people of this country - and for good reason. To simply acknowledge the Creator mentioned so many times in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as well as most of the Federalist Papers as the source of our rights.

You may dispute this or deny it as you wish or just keep stating that 'it shouldn't be there' and how 'simple' that is but it's just as simple to most everyone that 'Under God' is a viable statement that has a place in our Pledge of Allegiance. Those who object may legally refuse to recite it but to force everyone else to stop saying the Pledge by declaring it 'unconstitutional' is wrong and that foolish ruling will be eventually overturned by the Supreme Court.

That's about as simple as I can make it.