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89 Cobra LX · 08-09-2002, 01:41 PM

I knew CA was tough, but air filters and mufflers? Come on!

Maybe someone with CA knowledge can enlighten us, but I would think a muffler and or air filter would keep you legal. Isn't that why companys pay to have their parts C.A.R.B. certified?

induction · 08-09-2002, 02:03 PM

Yes , it's true air filters all the way to the mufflers. Just try and get a smog test here with anything mising or not replaced with the proper parts ha! man even a misrouted or broken vacume line can make you blow hot (fail) dont even think of removing the cat. most muffler shops wont touch it unless ther replacing it!

Ya gotta know someone that does the testing to pass the test if your car is modafied

P.S. I am in Southern California
Example : on my '65 it has a hose from the air cleaner to the pcv valve only the California cars had them ( not that it needs to be there now the car is exempt from smog so anything goes . but im fairly shur thats only up to 1972 or commercial .

89 Cobra LX · 08-09-2002, 02:20 PM

I really thought as long as it was C.A.R.B. certified you would be able to pass the inspection..... assuming you passed the sniffer part. Otherwise, these companies are wasting their time and money getting C.A.R.B. certification.

Thanks, Induction.

induction · 08-09-2002, 02:37 PM

I don't know all the rules but If it has a C.A.R.B. cert it may still only be approved for off road use only in California what a great state hua?! Not only must it pass the sniffer test it must also pass a visual test. Welcome to the Golden state ( its all about the cash)

PKRWUD is the carb guy im shur he can help us out with this.

Rev · 08-09-2002, 03:08 PM

Wouldn't the guy with the K&N have been legal if he had had the CARB sticker under the hood? I'm no expert on Ca. law, but I think that's how it goes. Check with PKRWUD on that,. I bet he knows.

I loved the explanation from the cop about suspension mods being illegal. "We have no way of knowing the quality of the after market part or the quality of the installation". Personally I doubt that many cops know much about suspensions at all.

Rev

induction · 08-09-2002, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rev
Wouldn't the guy with the K&N have been legal if he had had the CARB sticker under the hood? I'm no expert on Ca. law, but I think that's how it goes. Check with PKRWUD on that,. I bet he knows.

I loved the explanation from the cop about suspension mods being illegal. "We have no way of knowing the quality of the after market part or the quality of the installation". Personally I doubt that many cops know much about suspensions at all.

Rev

I agree with you and I think if he had the sticker at all it was mixed in with all the rest stuck on the trunk or rear window .lol
As for the suspension mods thats just a runoff they use from the headlamp adjustment laws " if the headlamps are too low then the driver cant see correctly " so lets see what else is unsafe oooooooooooohhhhhhhhh the whole car sits too low that must mean he can't safely clear the reflectors in the road hummmm...... must be worn-out suspension parts or ect. ect. Now this car "cant be safe on my highway" =impound and fees paid to the city.

Do I sound bitter?

Rev · 08-09-2002, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by induction

Do I sound bitter?

Yes, and I certainly don't blame you either. You know it'll just be a matter of time before all states copy those laws so the fuzz and courts can just hammer people at will about their cars. The usual plan is just to pass so many laws that almost everyone will be in violation of some of them. Then, when they want to, they can just go down a checklist until they find a violation or three or four. Then impoundment fees, towing fees, fines, storage fees, court costs, ad finitum.

Rev

induction · 08-09-2002, 04:32 PM

Hey , MR 5 0 do ya have any info on this?

The Deuce · 08-09-2002, 05:08 PM

As far as I know, anything goes on my '72. Didn't have to get it smogged, car barerly runs, but can be tagged.

It is my understanding that anything south of the cats is not governed by the smog laws. There are "drive by" noise laws in CA, and you can in trouble for those. I know plenty of guys that run flows, and there is no problem changing the muffler.

As far as intake is concerned, there is the dreaded "visual inspection" This is where you get nailed for missing hoses, etc. They do not open the airbox to check what kind of filter is in there. So a K&N filter in itself is not going to get you into trouble.

More drastic mods, like heads, headers and CAI's are a gray area. They will pass the sniff test, but not always the visual. I hear there are ways to find people that won't bust you if you only fail the visual part, but I cannot be held to that statement, especially since my car is S-T-O-C-K.

If anyone has specific questions, please make it known you have them and attempt to get them answered via PM.

induction · 08-09-2002, 05:32 PM

Thanks Deuce I was starting ta get in over my head lol I didn't know about the south end . Dammit why do I keep learning new things everyday ?!!

I'm mot sure if I have much space left up there and all of you just keep packing it in . Oh well I gotta go and get more "brain food" 20-50 see ya!

slick4_6 · 08-09-2002, 09:30 PM

All I could say was poor Mustang. I thought it was hilarious. The guy spent $60,000 on a 320 horse v-tech. What a moron.

Mopar1 · 08-10-2002, 01:44 PM

Guess it aint like it used to be. Would have liked to have seen some old muscle. A Vega with a v-8 chopped in it, would have brought back some memories.

The Fireman · 08-10-2002, 02:08 PM

All I had to say about that show was STUPID RICERS. Seeing that Mustang after it was hit didn't help much either.

0h n0 5.0 · 08-10-2002, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mopar1
Guess it aint like it used to be. Would have liked to have seen some old muscle. A Vega with a v-8 chopped in it, would have brought back some memories.

what'd you expect..real cars with impressive horsepower an style??...HA!. MTV sucks.

jeeze criminy Domestics created the F%$#@*! Sport how about a lil recognition besides a gruesome,twisted wreck...

Suck my axx MTV!!

LayanRubr · 08-10-2002, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slick4_6
All I could say was poor Mustang. I thought it was hilarious. The guy spent $60,000 on a 320 horse v-tech. What a moron.

For 60k he could of easily gotten a Vette and pumped it into the 10's in the 1/4

or even a ricer! But its still 320 hp?

Stang_Crazy · 08-10-2002, 10:17 PM

aww man, 320 hp?? Wow he's my idol

Did you see when he was at the hangout and everyone was checking his car out...he had his driving gloves on!!! Yep, he must need driving gloves to tame that beast. At least when it started HAHAHA

Stang Obsession · 08-10-2002, 11:15 PM

Hey guys..
Want to know something funny?! When I saw the previews for that show, it reminded me of the city I live in. I about died laughing. Most of my friends drive ricers and I can guarantee you that someone's going to be racing every night. However, I missed the show but from the sounds of it, it was no big loss?!

0h n0 5.0 · 08-11-2002, 02:28 PM

i dunno i suppose it is easier to mod a piece of crap beater you already own.. than buying a real car in the first place

jeeze $60K!!!

,

hey bud! heres a quarter, buy a clue. buy a zo6, an 03 cobra, ws6, SS, an really eat some ricer lunch...

StangFlyer · 08-11-2002, 03:37 PM

Did anyone tape the show? I missed it... Love to see what everyone is laughing about..

induction · 08-11-2002, 03:43 PM

It will be on later today 2030 hrs. P.S.T

08-09-2002, 01:41 PM	#21
89 Cobra LX Don Corlione Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Omaha NE USA Posts: 491	CA law ignorant I knew CA was tough, but air filters and mufflers? Come on! Maybe someone with CA knowledge can enlighten us, but I would think a muffler and or air filter would keep you legal. Isn't that why companys pay to have their parts C.A.R.B. certified? __________________ Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe 5 speed 302-Cobra Intake-GT40p heads-TFS stage 1 cam-FRPP 1.6 roller rockers-3:73 gears-KYB shocks and struts-Eibach Pro-kit-HPM Mega-bite upper and lower control arms-FRPP aluminum driveshaft-16x8 Chrome Cobra Rs R.H.C. #14

08-09-2002, 02:03 PM	#22
induction The Brit! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Across the Pond! Posts: 694	Yes , it's true air filters all the way to the mufflers. Just try and get a smog test here with anything mising or not replaced with the proper parts ha! man even a misrouted or broken vacume line can make you blow hot (fail) dont even think of removing the cat. most muffler shops wont touch it unless ther replacing it! Ya gotta know someone that does the testing to pass the test if your car is modafied P.S. I am in Southern California Example : on my '65 it has a hose from the air cleaner to the pcv valve only the California cars had them ( not that it needs to be there now the car is exempt from smog so anything goes . but im fairly shur thats only up to 1972 or commercial . __________________ *Restored 1965 Coupe* *April Mare of the Month* RiceHatersClub Member #27 Last edited by induction; 08-09-2002 at 02:25 PM..

08-09-2002, 02:20 PM	#23
89 Cobra LX Don Corlione Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Omaha NE USA Posts: 491	what a sucky deal I really thought as long as it was C.A.R.B. certified you would be able to pass the inspection..... assuming you passed the sniffer part. Otherwise, these companies are wasting their time and money getting C.A.R.B. certification. Thanks, Induction. __________________ Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe 5 speed 302-Cobra Intake-GT40p heads-TFS stage 1 cam-FRPP 1.6 roller rockers-3:73 gears-KYB shocks and struts-Eibach Pro-kit-HPM Mega-bite upper and lower control arms-FRPP aluminum driveshaft-16x8 Chrome Cobra Rs R.H.C. #14

08-09-2002, 02:37 PM	#24
induction The Brit! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Across the Pond! Posts: 694	I don't know all the rules but If it has a C.A.R.B. cert it may still only be approved for off road use only in California what a great state hua?! Not only must it pass the sniffer test it must also pass a visual test. Welcome to the Golden state ( its all about the cash) PKRWUD is the carb guy im shur he can help us out with this. __________________ *Restored 1965 Coupe* *April Mare of the Month* RiceHatersClub Member #27

08-09-2002, 03:08 PM	#25
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	CARB Wouldn't the guy with the K&N have been legal if he had had the CARB sticker under the hood? I'm no expert on Ca. law, but I think that's how it goes. Check with PKRWUD on that,. I bet he knows. I loved the explanation from the cop about suspension mods being illegal. "We have no way of knowing the quality of the after market part or the quality of the installation". Personally I doubt that many cops know much about suspensions at all. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

08-09-2002, 04:32 PM	#28
induction The Brit! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Across the Pond! Posts: 694	Hey , MR 5 0 do ya have any info on this? __________________ *Restored 1965 Coupe* *April Mare of the Month* RiceHatersClub Member #27

08-09-2002, 05:08 PM	#29
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	CA Smog As far as I know, anything goes on my '72. Didn't have to get it smogged, car barerly runs, but can be tagged. It is my understanding that anything south of the cats is not governed by the smog laws. There are "drive by" noise laws in CA, and you can in trouble for those. I know plenty of guys that run flows, and there is no problem changing the muffler. As far as intake is concerned, there is the dreaded "visual inspection" This is where you get nailed for missing hoses, etc. They do not open the airbox to check what kind of filter is in there. So a K&N filter in itself is not going to get you into trouble. More drastic mods, like heads, headers and CAI's are a gray area. They will pass the sniff test, but not always the visual. I hear there are ways to find people that won't bust you if you only fail the visual part, but I cannot be held to that statement, especially since my car is S-T-O-C-K. If anyone has specific questions, please make it known you have them and attempt to get them answered via PM. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

08-09-2002, 05:32 PM	#30
induction The Brit! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Across the Pond! Posts: 694	Thanks Deuce I was starting ta get in over my head lol I didn't know about the south end . Dammit why do I keep learning new things everyday ?!! I'm mot sure if I have much space left up there and all of you just keep packing it in . Oh well I gotta go and get more "brain food" 20-50 see ya! __________________ *Restored 1965 Coupe* *April Mare of the Month* RiceHatersClub Member #27

08-09-2002, 09:30 PM	#31
slick4_6 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Asheboro, NC Posts: 31	All I could say was poor Mustang. I thought it was hilarious. The guy spent $60,000 on a 320 horse v-tech. What a moron. __________________ 1999 Cobra - Bone Stock Built 6-3-99 #3202 of 4040

08-10-2002, 01:44 PM	#32
Mopar1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lakewood, Wa Posts: 161	Guess it aint like it used to be. Would have liked to have seen some old muscle. A Vega with a v-8 chopped in it, would have brought back some memories. __________________ '77 Aspen R/T: 318 w/273 heads, 4spd, Hurst Shifter, 600 holley, edelbrock intake, 8 3/4 axle, 3.23 sure-grip, dual 3" exhaust, MP cam 276 / 276 duration 490 / 490 mech solid lifter, Super Stock Springs (15.65@88 3900lbs) '91 Mustang LX: .030 Bored, Typhoon Intake, 4.10's, Lentech VB, BBK 70mm TB, FMS A/C elim bracket, 19lbs inject, off road H-pipe, 75mm pro-m MAF, FRP unequal shorty, stormin normin hood. 3420 Lbs w/ 220 (me) and 13 gal gas. '02 SS Camaro

08-10-2002, 02:08 PM	#33
The Fireman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Ford Country which is in Virginia Posts: 287	All I had to say about that show was STUPID RICERS. Seeing that Mustang after it was hit didn't help much either. __________________ "Gripping the wheel his knuckles went white with desire. The wheels of his Mustang exploding onto the highway like a slug from a 45." The car that should've got crused.

08-10-2002, 10:17 PM	#36
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	aww man, 320 hp?? Wow he's my idol Did you see when he was at the hangout and everyone was checking his car out...he had his driving gloves on!!! Yep, he must need driving gloves to tame that beast. At least when it started HAHAHA __________________ ~Dan 2001 SVT Lightning 89' GT : Taking up garage space and waiting for a buyer... Rice Hater's Club - Member #11

08-10-2002, 11:15 PM	#37
Stang Obsession Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: North Dakota Posts: 43	Hey guys.. Want to know something funny?! When I saw the previews for that show, it reminded me of the city I live in. I about died laughing. Most of my friends drive ricers and I can guarantee you that someone's going to be racing every night. However, I missed the show but from the sounds of it, it was no big loss?!

08-11-2002, 02:28 PM	#38
0h n0 5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 371	i dunno i suppose it is easier to mod a piece of crap beater you already own.. than buying a real car in the first place jeeze $60K!!!, hey bud! heres a quarter, buy a clue. buy a zo6, an 03 cobra, ws6, SS, an really eat some ricer lunch... __________________ 0h n0 5.0 Alias:94five0, Vr00m, Black Shuck 1994 GT 5.0l

08-11-2002, 03:37 PM	#39
StangFlyer Founder Join Date: Jun 1995 Location: Michigan Posts: 19,326	Did anyone tape the show? I missed it... Love to see what everyone is laughing about.. __________________ StangFlyer 1991 Mustang GT - Supercharged 377 Stroker 2000 Ford Lightning - Project Lightning Hauler Media Center Gallery - View my member photos

08-11-2002, 03:43 PM	#40
induction The Brit! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Across the Pond! Posts: 694	It will be on later today 2030 hrs. P.S.T __________________ *Restored 1965 Coupe* *April Mare of the Month* RiceHatersClub Member #27 Last edited by induction; 08-11-2002 at 03:50 PM..

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