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Old 01-01-2003, 07:02 PM   #12
Mr 5 0
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Originally posted by ultraflo

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I dislike seeing otherwise sensible people such as yourself, Jim, parrot the right-wing ultra-conservative jibberish just as much as I really hate to see individuals, as well as groups, parrot the liberal media. I would consider myself right of center, but judging by some of your comments, you stand just a bit further to the right than I, sir.
I dislike seeing otherwise sensible people attempt to condemn both liberals and conservatives as a group, call sensible policy 'gibberish' and then assume that's somehow a reasoned position to take when in fact, it's a cheesy cop-out. Define Ultra-conservative gibberish, please and be precise; don't evade the question with some aloof blanket dismissal of conservative core beliefs. I'm quite interested to see what you have to offer here, as you made the charge. Now, back it up. Define Ultra-conservative gibberish and refute what I stated, with logic, facts and reason, not sheer emotion or bumper-sticker slogans. Go ahead, I can take it, I promise. If you don't choose to do this then please don't post sweeping and inaccurate generalizations about conservative positions without being prepared to defend what you so easily condemn. Fair enough?

Oh, and don't call me 'Sir'- it makes me feel old.

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I highly doubt 'W' accomplishes much, if any, of the Republican agena "single-handedly" Jim...
Never said he did. I said George W. Bush has forced the U.N. to adopt an aggressive policy (backed by the U.S. military) against Iraq. Colin Powell helped but President Bush stood at the podium of the U.N. General Assembly and challenged the body to live up to it's charter. Bush did that, alone. He also convinced the Congress - not his friends by a long shot - to back him. Bush IS the Republican agenda. he sets it for the most part. Don't you get that? New to politics? I hope not.

The President is the head of the government and the head of his party. He is the front man and the leader. Does a General win the war by himself? No, his men do but he gets a lot of the glory. Same with a President. When the economy falters, Bush gets the blame for that, too. if we run into a snag in Iraq, who gets blamed? President Bush. It cuts both ways. Like it or not, as Bill Clinton was the leader of the U.S. from 1993-2001, George W. Bush is our leader now and he is doing a helluva job, which annoys and frustrates some people to no end. I love it.
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