raced a Supra Twin Turbo

Originally posted by T88H34GSUPRA
20LbsBoost,

You have no clue...

So you think these cars are all slow dyno queens...

I seem to have hit a sore spot here. I think a very high % on the street are dyno queens...yes. You've posted some great performance figures from Supras and I give respect where respect is due but you've posted exceptions and not the norms. It's pretty well known they put out fantastic HP #'s but very poor TQ #'s unless you're willing to dump $10k+ into it. As most everyone knows, high HP and low TQ engines get great top end but will get killed from a dig or 1/4 mile race. This is standard car/racing dogma. I don't think most here would consider a run on the Silver State Classic your typical street race.

Your impressive cars/times don't show HP, TQ figures or vehicle weights. With all or most things being equal A 400HP / 600 TQ car is gonna SMOKE a 1000HP / 400 TQ Supra from a dig or 1/4 mile run every time, although your Supra will trap a much higher speed. That means nothing when racing to the checkered flag. It's equivalant to the same argument I hear from LS1 guys. They flatter themselves with their HP #'s and trap speeds though it means nothing when you've beaten them to the end of the race. It's pretty funny reading posts saying "wow, you've got a 1000HP 12 second Supra huh?"

I'm not trying to start anything here either but facts is facts. I've seen videos of Supras trap at 120+mph but only run a 12 second 1/4 mile and I've already explained why.

I personally don't have much use for racing from a 60mph roll, maybe you do, nor do I believe many here do. If that's your bag so be it. Stop-light-wars is the name of the game 'round here. I think it's pretty foolish to run on the street where the Supra is at it's potential. Unless you've got A LOT of dough wrapped up into it I wouldn't recommend running against a Turbo Buick from a slow roll or dead dig. It takes a $1,000 or less to get any Turbo Regal (or especially '89 Turbo T/A) into mid-low 12's.

For your enjoyment here's an 8 second run of an exceptional V-6 Grand National with full interior and weighing in at 3600lbs.: http://www.ws6transam.org/video/bamford_incar_video.mpg Can you say TORQUE?

Don't go pokin' street fights with a high TQ Mustang or Turbo Buick unless you got the goods to back up a run from 0-60 (which most Supras don't). The beautiful thing about the Turbo Buick is you can't tell which ones are modified and the ones that aren't.

In short.....I'd be wise not to race a Turbo Supra from a 50+mph roll and I it'd be wise for your typical Turbo Supra not to run a Turbo Buick or Mustang from a red light or slow roll.