Help me understand timing

xxxBlakexxx · 03-10-2004, 10:02 PM

(crap, my post got posted before I was done)

Anyway, go with ones of these style chips:

1 - a "Max Tuner" type device. This will allow you to make changes yourself without pulling the chip. If you decide to add gears later, then just re-program it! No installtion with a tuner and chips suck to install, but these things cost more. Super Tuner and Diablo make these that I know of (though Diablo's may just be for Cobras)

2 - Choose a chip that can be pulled and customized later. I chose this option. For $80 I can add a custom program, but I have to take it out and mail it.

Now for your big question "On a Stock GT will timing advance and using better gas add to performance?" On paper "YES". In reality, I think it depends on the car. There are too many factors I think. This is why a real dyno tune program is the ONLY way to ensure results. Diablo claims a 24 hp gain at the wheels with my chip. I can tell you as the driver, no way. Maybe 5 or 10 based on my "butt-o-meter".

For automatics, garden variety chips help a lot more, yet cost the same. If I had an auto, a chip is a must! For a 5 speed, well, I am not sure. I probably would have been better off buying gears or exhaust.

Hope this helps and I am sure there will be other opinions.

03-10-2004, 10:02 PM	#8
xxxBlakexxx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountaintop, PA Posts: 634	(crap, my post got posted before I was done) Anyway, go with ones of these style chips: 1 - a "Max Tuner" type device. This will allow you to make changes yourself without pulling the chip. If you decide to add gears later, then just re-program it! No installtion with a tuner and chips suck to install, but these things cost more. Super Tuner and Diablo make these that I know of (though Diablo's may just be for Cobras) 2 - Choose a chip that can be pulled and customized later. I chose this option. For $80 I can add a custom program, but I have to take it out and mail it. Now for your big question "On a Stock GT will timing advance and using better gas add to performance?" On paper "YES". In reality, I think it depends on the car. There are too many factors I think. This is why a real dyno tune program is the ONLY way to ensure results. Diablo claims a 24 hp gain at the wheels with my chip. I can tell you as the driver, no way. Maybe 5 or 10 based on my "butt-o-meter". For automatics, garden variety chips help a lot more, yet cost the same. If I had an auto, a chip is a must! For a 5 speed, well, I am not sure. I probably would have been better off buying gears or exhaust. Hope this helps and I am sure there will be other opinions. __________________ "Children should not get cancer, but they do!" Help a child with cancer at www.homeoftheirown.org My Stang: 2000 Mustang GT Vert - Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter; C&L Plenum; BBK 75 mm TB; Steeda Strut Tower Supports; Black "Deep Dish" Bullet Wheels; FRPP 4.10's; Steeda Subframes; SLP Catback & SLP Catted X-Pipe; SCT 4 Position Chip with 3 custom tunes; Steeda CAI; Venom-1000 Nitrous; Roush Stage 3 Body Kit; Bullet Suspension Package (on the way)