NCAA Tournament

302 LX Eric · 03-16-2004, 10:21 AM

Let's hear your final 4 and why (I need help with my picks)...

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Hethj7 · 03-17-2004, 01:27 PM

Well, it is hard for me to get to into it this year, since my Tigers already got knocked out....of the NIT

!

But, my final four picks were Mississippi State, Uconn, Kentucky, and Pitt. These may not be all the popular picks, but to win these office pools, you have got to be a little different.

As far as why...well, Pitt is in the bracket with St. Joseph's. St. Joe will bow out to a better team unless thier guards are just extremely hot....they don't have a real inside presence. Oklahoma State is the real contender in that region, but I just went with a gut feeling that Pitt would get the better of them. Oklahoma state is good, but they have probably overachieved by winning the Big 12 season and tournament. Their run is probably over.

UConn played well even when Okafor was out during the Big East tournament. With him and Villeneuva back, they are my favorite to win it all. Kentucky is the easy pick out of that bracket...I just don't think Gonzaga or Ga Tech will knock them off. KU may put up a fight, but they have been inconsistent this year and it would be tough for them to make a 3rd final four appearance in a row.

MSU is my sleeper pick and is just to be different. They have the toughest road to the Final Four...probably having to go through Texas and Duke. I could see any of those three teams making it our of that region....I don't have a real reason I picked MSU I guess.

No real rhyme or reason to most of it, but those are my picks.

302 LX Eric · 03-17-2004, 05:11 PM

That's cool. At least your team made it to the NIT...my sorry a s s team didn't even get to the NIT hahahaha

Oh well, there's always next year.

I ended up going with this as my final 4:

Kentucky
Wake Forest
Illinois
Maryland

With Maryland winning it all.

You're right, you gotta be a little different and go out on a limb if you want to win it all. We'll see.

Take it easy,
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Hethj7 · 03-17-2004, 05:29 PM

Yea, my team made it to the NIT, but with the expectations we had this year, it was real disappointing. Hell, we were #3 in the nation at one point.....now we aren't even playing.

mustardjohn · 03-17-2004, 06:41 PM

Being from the SEC I like Miss St and Kentucky don't know enough to pick the rest. I do know Miss St has some luck this year after watching them beat Alabama in the last second.

My team is Alabama and I am pulling for them to make the sweet 16. They will have to play some inspired ball to do that.

Might try eliminating all the ones who can't make it and see what you come up with. At least that will narrow the field.

Hethj7 · 03-17-2004, 07:02 PM

I think I have SIU upsetting Alabama early. That is an opening round game if I remember correctly, isn't it?

mustardjohn · 03-17-2004, 09:58 PM

Yes. SIU vs UoA in an afternoon game tomorrow or is it next Thursday?

Hethj7 · 03-18-2004, 10:01 AM

It would have to be today or tomorrow. All the first and second round games are played over this weekend.

Stang_Crazy · 03-18-2004, 11:46 AM

Duke, UConn, Kentucky, Pitt.

Living in Pittsburgh, I don't really care who else is in the final four besides Pitt. The NCAA ganked Pitt's #1 or #2 seed because they lost the Big East Championship in the final minute. If Pitt fell to a #3 seed with a loss, how in the hell is St. Joe's still a #1 seed after their loss?!?? Did anyone watch the selection show and see the interview with St. Joseph's coach Phil Martelli?? He blasted all of the critics who hadn't praised his team for it's season and #1 seed.....it left a real sour taste in my mouth seeing a coach conduct himself like that. If St. Joe's was in the Big East Conference , they probably would have been 8-8 within the conference. Anyone can go undefeated when they play in a garbage conference.

Like I said, I don't care about the other three regions. I hope the St. Joe's pu$$ies stay alive to meet Pitt.

mustardjohn · 03-18-2004, 07:14 PM

Roll Tide!!!! Alabama squeeks by. They have lost several at the buzzer lately. I guess its was their turn.

Hethj7 · 03-18-2004, 08:46 PM

Yea, that was a great finish to that game. Roll Tide! I used to love screaming that on spring break with all the Bama girls.....they were so hot every year!

mustardjohn · 03-20-2004, 11:36 PM

Roll Tide!!!!! Sweet 16 baby.... Its all gravy from here.

Stang_Crazy · 03-21-2004, 08:33 PM

Everyone's brackets should be pretty jacked up after this weekend! Lots of upsets!

mustardjohn · 03-21-2004, 09:01 PM

How about UAB!!! The Kentucky folks' jaw was on the floor. The earth is off its orbit.

Hethj7 · 03-22-2004, 01:30 PM

Yea, guess I had no clue when I picked Bama to do out in the first round

. Congrats to them and....Roll Tide!!

SMOKE · 03-22-2004, 10:02 PM

Well my picks remain.

Kansas, Okla State, Duke, and UConn

Kansas: Draw looks more favorable with KY out of thhe tuorney and only the Cinderalla's UAB and Nevada. G Tech may prove to be a but much for Kansas but superior size/experience should prove the difference.

Okla State: Defense wins period. There is no team tougher on the defensive side of the ball in the tourney. Wake Forest has the total package to make it an interesting game but Coach Sutton's boys should advance.

Duke: Easiest draw in the tourney because a lot of the earleir teams were intimadated by the Big Blue Machine. Illinois should put up a better game but eventual the big test will come later with Texas. Great size and experience with Mouton, looking forward to this game. If Duke can get by them ..... it won't hurt as much losing to the National Champions.

UConn: Great Big East rep but with only one real scorer, Gordon, will see how hard it is to get to thee final game. Carmelo was able to do it, but I don't think Gordon has the same stuff.
Side note: I had hoped my Alma Mater (NCSU) would give them a good game but, they couldn't hold onto t lead. Up 10 with 3:38 to go.

I guess they didn't deserve a Sweet 16 birth. Damn, yeah , it still stings.

National championship game, Duke annd Okla State. I think this will be a future classic after the first three minutes. Duke may need some inspired play to score more than 60 against the stingy D of Okla State.

Stang_Crazy · 03-23-2004, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SMOKE
UConn: Great Big East rep but with only one real scorer, Gordon, will see how hard it is to get to thee final game.

Emeka Okafor isn't a scorer? He's their whole team! Scoring, boards, blocks, etc. Gordon is their outside weapon and he's a sniper. If UConn can keep Okafor's back healthy, they can hang with anyone in college hoops.

What can I say, I have a Big East bias....after all, it is the best conference in college basketball!

mustardjohn · 03-26-2004, 12:31 AM

Roll Tide!!! Sarycuse goes down. Final four what are the odds? Who wants to pick Tide in next game. Over the years I have learned not bet against them. I either bet on them or don't bet. I am scratching my head on this next game.

SMOKE · 03-27-2004, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stang_Crazy
Emeka Okafor isn't a scorer? He's their whole team! Scoring, boards, blocks, etc. Gordon is their outside weapon and he's a sniper. If UConn can keep Okafor's back healthy, they can hang with anyone in college hoops.

What can I say, I have a Big East bias....after all, it is the best conference in college basketball!

Perhaps, I should quantify "scorer". Someone that can score outside the offense and within the offense. Barring offensive rebound put backs - Okafor will require someone passing him the ball.

Most post players, especially at the college level, rarely rate as scorers.

As for the best conference, well only history can really dictate that title.

mustardjohn · 03-28-2004, 10:50 AM

Alabama out. Did not even cover the spread, 13 points. Oh well it the first time ever in the final 8 and that was an accomplishment. U CONN ruled the offensive boards and the three.

03-17-2004, 05:29 PM	#4
Hethj7 Mizzou Tigers Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: weston, MO United States Posts: 1,455	Yea, my team made it to the NIT, but with the expectations we had this year, it was real disappointing. Hell, we were #3 in the nation at one point.....now we aren't even playing. __________________ 2006 Mustang GT 1990 LX GT-40 motor 262 horsepower, 307ft-lbs (sold but forever loved) 1998 Contour SVT Rice Haters Club Member #244

03-17-2004, 06:41 PM	#5
mustardjohn Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 360	Being from the SEC I like Miss St and Kentucky don't know enough to pick the rest. I do know Miss St has some luck this year after watching them beat Alabama in the last second. My team is Alabama and I am pulling for them to make the sweet 16. They will have to play some inspired ball to do that. Might try eliminating all the ones who can't make it and see what you come up with. At least that will narrow the field. __________________ 2003 3.8 Mineral Gray, MAC CAI, K&N, Chin Spoiler

03-17-2004, 07:02 PM	#6
Hethj7 Mizzou Tigers Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: weston, MO United States Posts: 1,455	I think I have SIU upsetting Alabama early. That is an opening round game if I remember correctly, isn't it? __________________ 2006 Mustang GT 1990 LX GT-40 motor 262 horsepower, 307ft-lbs (sold but forever loved) 1998 Contour SVT Rice Haters Club Member #244

03-17-2004, 09:58 PM	#7
mustardjohn Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 360	Yes. SIU vs UoA in an afternoon game tomorrow or is it next Thursday? __________________ 2003 3.8 Mineral Gray, MAC CAI, K&N, Chin Spoiler

03-18-2004, 10:01 AM	#8
Hethj7 Mizzou Tigers Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: weston, MO United States Posts: 1,455	It would have to be today or tomorrow. All the first and second round games are played over this weekend. __________________ 2006 Mustang GT 1990 LX GT-40 motor 262 horsepower, 307ft-lbs (sold but forever loved) 1998 Contour SVT Rice Haters Club Member #244

03-16-2004, 10:21 AM	#1
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	NCAA Tournament Let's hear your final 4 and why (I need help with my picks)... E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

03-17-2004, 01:27 PM	#2
Hethj7 Mizzou Tigers Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: weston, MO United States Posts: 1,455	Well, it is hard for me to get to into it this year, since my Tigers already got knocked out....of the NIT ! But, my final four picks were Mississippi State, Uconn, Kentucky, and Pitt. These may not be all the popular picks, but to win these office pools, you have got to be a little different. As far as why...well, Pitt is in the bracket with St. Joseph's. St. Joe will bow out to a better team unless thier guards are just extremely hot....they don't have a real inside presence. Oklahoma State is the real contender in that region, but I just went with a gut feeling that Pitt would get the better of them. Oklahoma state is good, but they have probably overachieved by winning the Big 12 season and tournament. Their run is probably over. UConn played well even when Okafor was out during the Big East tournament. With him and Villeneuva back, they are my favorite to win it all. Kentucky is the easy pick out of that bracket...I just don't think Gonzaga or Ga Tech will knock them off. KU may put up a fight, but they have been inconsistent this year and it would be tough for them to make a 3rd final four appearance in a row. MSU is my sleeper pick and is just to be different. They have the toughest road to the Final Four...probably having to go through Texas and Duke. I could see any of those three teams making it our of that region....I don't have a real reason I picked MSU I guess. No real rhyme or reason to most of it, but those are my picks. __________________ 2006 Mustang GT 1990 LX GT-40 motor 262 horsepower, 307ft-lbs (sold but forever loved) 1998 Contour SVT Rice Haters Club Member #244

03-17-2004, 05:11 PM	#3
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	That's cool. At least your team made it to the NIT...my sorry a s s team didn't even get to the NIT hahahaha Oh well, there's always next year. I ended up going with this as my final 4: Kentucky Wake Forest Illinois Maryland With Maryland winning it all. You're right, you gotta be a little different and go out on a limb if you want to win it all. We'll see. Take it easy, E

03-18-2004, 11:46 AM	#9
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	Duke, UConn, Kentucky, Pitt. Living in Pittsburgh, I don't really care who else is in the final four besides Pitt. The NCAA ganked Pitt's #1 or #2 seed because they lost the Big East Championship in the final minute. If Pitt fell to a #3 seed with a loss, how in the hell is St. Joe's still a #1 seed after their loss?!?? Did anyone watch the selection show and see the interview with St. Joseph's coach Phil Martelli?? He blasted all of the critics who hadn't praised his team for it's season and #1 seed.....it left a real sour taste in my mouth seeing a coach conduct himself like that. If St. Joe's was in the Big East Conference , they probably would have been 8-8 within the conference. Anyone can go undefeated when they play in a garbage conference. Like I said, I don't care about the other three regions. I hope the St. Joe's pu$$ies stay alive to meet Pitt. __________________ ~Dan 2001 SVT Lightning 89' GT : Taking up garage space and waiting for a buyer... Rice Hater's Club - Member #11 Last edited by Stang_Crazy; 03-18-2004 at 08:35 PM..

03-18-2004, 07:14 PM	#10
mustardjohn Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 360	Roll Tide!!!! Alabama squeeks by. They have lost several at the buzzer lately. I guess its was their turn. __________________ 2003 3.8 Mineral Gray, MAC CAI, K&N, Chin Spoiler

03-18-2004, 08:46 PM	#11
Hethj7 Mizzou Tigers Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: weston, MO United States Posts: 1,455	Yea, that was a great finish to that game. Roll Tide! I used to love screaming that on spring break with all the Bama girls.....they were so hot every year! __________________ 2006 Mustang GT 1990 LX GT-40 motor 262 horsepower, 307ft-lbs (sold but forever loved) 1998 Contour SVT Rice Haters Club Member #244

03-20-2004, 11:36 PM	#12
mustardjohn Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 360	Roll Tide!!!!! Sweet 16 baby.... Its all gravy from here. __________________ 2003 3.8 Mineral Gray, MAC CAI, K&N, Chin Spoiler

03-21-2004, 08:33 PM	#13
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	Everyone's brackets should be pretty jacked up after this weekend! Lots of upsets! __________________ ~Dan 2001 SVT Lightning 89' GT : Taking up garage space and waiting for a buyer... Rice Hater's Club - Member #11

03-21-2004, 09:01 PM	#14
mustardjohn Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 360	How about UAB!!! The Kentucky folks' jaw was on the floor. The earth is off its orbit. __________________ 2003 3.8 Mineral Gray, MAC CAI, K&N, Chin Spoiler

03-22-2004, 01:30 PM	#15
Hethj7 Mizzou Tigers Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: weston, MO United States Posts: 1,455	Yea, guess I had no clue when I picked Bama to do out in the first round . Congrats to them and....Roll Tide!! __________________ 2006 Mustang GT 1990 LX GT-40 motor 262 horsepower, 307ft-lbs (sold but forever loved) 1998 Contour SVT Rice Haters Club Member #244

03-22-2004, 10:02 PM	#16
SMOKE Old School ROUSH Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Stockbridge, GA Posts: 531	Well my picks remain. Kansas, Okla State, Duke, and UConn Kansas: Draw looks more favorable with KY out of thhe tuorney and only the Cinderalla's UAB and Nevada. G Tech may prove to be a but much for Kansas but superior size/experience should prove the difference. Okla State: Defense wins period. There is no team tougher on the defensive side of the ball in the tourney. Wake Forest has the total package to make it an interesting game but Coach Sutton's boys should advance. Duke: Easiest draw in the tourney because a lot of the earleir teams were intimadated by the Big Blue Machine. Illinois should put up a better game but eventual the big test will come later with Texas. Great size and experience with Mouton, looking forward to this game. If Duke can get by them ..... it won't hurt as much losing to the National Champions. UConn: Great Big East rep but with only one real scorer, Gordon, will see how hard it is to get to thee final game. Carmelo was able to do it, but I don't think Gordon has the same stuff. Side note: I had hoped my Alma Mater (NCSU) would give them a good game but, they couldn't hold onto t lead. Up 10 with 3:38 to go. I guess they didn't deserve a Sweet 16 birth. Damn, yeah , it still stings. National championship game, Duke annd Okla State. I think this will be a future classic after the first three minutes. Duke may need some inspired play to score more than 60 against the stingy D of Okla State. __________________

03-26-2004, 12:31 AM	#18
mustardjohn Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 360	Roll Tide!!! Sarycuse goes down. Final four what are the odds? Who wants to pick Tide in next game. Over the years I have learned not bet against them. I either bet on them or don't bet. I am scratching my head on this next game. __________________ 2003 3.8 Mineral Gray, MAC CAI, K&N, Chin Spoiler

03-28-2004, 10:50 AM	#20
mustardjohn Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 360	Alabama out. Did not even cover the spread, 13 points. Oh well it the first time ever in the final 8 and that was an accomplishment. U CONN ruled the offensive boards and the three. __________________ 2003 3.8 Mineral Gray, MAC CAI, K&N, Chin Spoiler

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