What camshaft/converter/gears for Cleveland

[tireburner163]

I think you'd be better off just doing a 351W base motor. 400M parts are few and far between

[Unit 5302]

I wouldn't build the 400M, either. If I did, I certainly wouldn't be revving it to 6000rpm. The engine has a very long 4.0" stroke which really increases the piston speed and stress on the rotating assembly. Make sure your transmission will fit, too. To accomodate that stroke, the deck height of the 351 was raised, and the rods were made longer, and very few 400M blocks actually have the same bolt pattern as the 351C engines.

You're going to be limited to around 5000rpm for peak power.

http://www.tmeyerinc.com/400Fordpg4.htm

[rwhite65]

Ok, I hate to help depress you....but I would not use that engine. If you are using it because you already have it, those are still sought after by the ford truck commmunity, where it should go and stay. You can get decent money for it if it is in good condition.

Get the 351w, much more parts available and CHEAPER!!!

Sorry, not knocken your engine choice, I have it in my truck....but the 351w will be an easier and cheaper engine for your application.
Ryan

[84LX89GT]

-thanks for the great link, unit -
I got the 351M engine and a fitting C6 transmission in exchange for a $140 truck (how much i had into it total), i got a Rochester quadrajet for $30 (750-800cfm, need to run serial numbers) and an edelbrock performer manifold with the engine. I know it will fit in a stang because a 460 can fit. The reason i want to use this engine is because with 407 cubic inches and cleveland heads (2 barrel Cleveland heads flow better than alot of aftermarket 5.0/5.8L heads) with porting will haul ass for real cheap. a distributor for it is $53 my cost and i plan on using the stock exhaust manifolds. The goal here is cheap torque (horsepower).
I got the higher compression pistons (badger 9.5:1) with rings already and i just need the block cleaned and bored, my dad was a machinist so the heads and intake manifold will be milled for nothing. The heads need new valves and with a camshaft i'll get all the valvetrain stuff that matches. when i'm done i'll easily be under $1000 dollars into the engine and hopefully it will make at least $300+ horsepower. Also i already have a nitrous oxide kit laying around so small shot would be fun to throw in the mix.
I'm a transmission tech at a ford dealership, so i can rebuild the C6 transmission for next to nothing.
-This is just a budget buildup and i have pretty much the whole combo dialed in except for what camshaft to get, that will determine my redline, torque converter stall and rear gear selection.
***i know a 400M is not what people think of as a performance engine (was a smog boat anchor), but it is still just a tall cleveland, and it's something different also***

[Dark_5.0]

Originally Posted by 84LX89GT

-thanks for the great link, unit -
I got the 351M engine and a fitting C6 transmission in exchange for a $140 truck (how much i had into it total), i got a Rochester quadrajet for $30 (750-800cfm, need to run serial numbers) and an edelbrock performer manifold with the engine. I know it will fit in a stang because a 460 can fit. The reason i want to use this engine is because with 407 cubic inches and cleveland heads (2 barrel Cleveland heads flow better than alot of aftermarket 5.0/5.8L heads) with porting will haul ass for real cheap. a distributor for it is $53 my cost and i plan on using the stock exhaust manifolds. The goal here is cheap torque (horsepower).
I got the higher compression pistons (badger 9.5:1) with rings already and i just need the block cleaned and bored, my dad was a machinist so the heads and intake manifold will be milled for nothing. The heads need new valves and with a camshaft i'll get all the valvetrain stuff that matches. when i'm done i'll easily be under $1000 dollars into the engine and hopefully it will make at least $300+ horsepower. Also i already have a nitrous oxide kit laying around so small shot would be fun to throw in the mix.
I'm a transmission tech at a ford dealership, so i can rebuild the C6 transmission for next to nothing.
-This is just a budget buildup and i have pretty much the whole combo dialed in except for what camshaft to get, that will determine my redline, torque converter stall and rear gear selection.
***i know a 400M is not what people think of as a performance engine (was a smog boat anchor), but it is still just a tall cleveland, and it's something different also***

Keep us posted on your progress. I would like to see some pics when you start throwing it together.

[84LX89GT]

Originally Posted by Dark_5.0

Keep us posted on your progress. I would like to see some pics when you start throwing it together.

You bet Dark 5.0, i'll be sure to take lots of pictures, i'm planning on doing this in a rather short time span so hopefully progress will come fast.

Thanks for all the info mike, that really helped out. I'll email you with any questions i have or any photos i can upload.

This should be quite the fun project.
***update for 2/27/05, recieved pistons and rings for engine, will get block machining done this week. I'll continue to port the heads and hopefully by the end of the week the heads will be ready to be milled and reconditioned.
-thanks for the replies everyone-