Car won't start. Long.

NitroNixon · 07-15-2005, 02:01 PM

Day 5 and still not start.

Hozer 88GTConv · 07-15-2005, 02:14 PM

So it still won't start at all? Not even idle for 3-5 secs?

Is your EGR valve still installed? Check that damn plunger if it is...also, check the ten-pin connectors next to the egr (corrosion, integrity, etc)..

tell us what your egr setup is like now? did you delete the crossover on the back of the heads but leave the egr on? If you took the egr off, what did you do with the plunger sensor?

Take a picture and post it of your egr if you can and it is still installed...

NitroNixon · 07-15-2005, 02:42 PM

I still have the cross over pipes on the back of the heads, still using the complete EGR system. The only think I have unhook is the smog pump. I capped it off since I'm running an off-road h-pipe.

Hozer 88GTConv · 07-15-2005, 03:42 PM

what does the egr look like, that is, when you take the sensor off (the giant vacuum looking thing) is it all black, sooty, or gummed up?
try bypassing it by taking the sensor off and depressing the long plunger and zip-tying it closed.
keep us posted...
also, have you swapped the intake bypass valve (that shiny cylinder on the front of your throttle body)?

Hozer 88GTConv · 07-15-2005, 07:48 PM

check that tfi module again too...

NitroNixon · 07-16-2005, 06:55 PM

Well,

I traced the wires from my Crane Ignition box. Can someone tell me where to find instructions on how to un-hook this box. I see how to un-hook the power and ground wires from the box, but there are 2 blue wires that run from the crane box directly to the coil. Were should I look to find the original wires that ran to the coil before the crane box was installed.

Also there are 2 small white wires that run from the crane box to the factory harness, and then right into the firewall.

07-15-2005, 02:01 PM	#1
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	Re: Car won't start. Long. Day 5 and still not start. __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

07-15-2005, 02:14 PM	#2
Hozer 88GTConv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 706	Re: Car won't start. Long. So it still won't start at all? Not even idle for 3-5 secs? Is your EGR valve still installed? Check that damn plunger if it is...also, check the ten-pin connectors next to the egr (corrosion, integrity, etc).. tell us what your egr setup is like now? did you delete the crossover on the back of the heads but leave the egr on? If you took the egr off, what did you do with the plunger sensor? Take a picture and post it of your egr if you can and it is still installed... __________________ 1988 GT Convertible 331 10:1 TW heads, GT-40 intake, MSD, TRW flattops, B Cam w/ 1.7's, MAC exhaust, 24's, 70 TB, 76 MAF, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, Koni's, Anderson PMS, Wideband 02, yatta, yatta... One week with new motor, two speeding tickets...joy

07-15-2005, 02:42 PM	#3
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	Re: Car won't start. Long. I still have the cross over pipes on the back of the heads, still using the complete EGR system. The only think I have unhook is the smog pump. I capped it off since I'm running an off-road h-pipe. __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

07-15-2005, 03:42 PM	#4
Hozer 88GTConv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 706	Re: Car won't start. Long. what does the egr look like, that is, when you take the sensor off (the giant vacuum looking thing) is it all black, sooty, or gummed up? try bypassing it by taking the sensor off and depressing the long plunger and zip-tying it closed. keep us posted... also, have you swapped the intake bypass valve (that shiny cylinder on the front of your throttle body)? __________________ 1988 GT Convertible 331 10:1 TW heads, GT-40 intake, MSD, TRW flattops, B Cam w/ 1.7's, MAC exhaust, 24's, 70 TB, 76 MAF, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, Koni's, Anderson PMS, Wideband 02, yatta, yatta... One week with new motor, two speeding tickets...joy Last edited by Hozer 88GTConv; 07-15-2005 at 04:26 PM..

07-15-2005, 07:48 PM	#5
Hozer 88GTConv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 706	Re: Car won't start. Long. check that tfi module again too... __________________ 1988 GT Convertible 331 10:1 TW heads, GT-40 intake, MSD, TRW flattops, B Cam w/ 1.7's, MAC exhaust, 24's, 70 TB, 76 MAF, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, Koni's, Anderson PMS, Wideband 02, yatta, yatta... One week with new motor, two speeding tickets...joy

07-16-2005, 06:55 PM	#6
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	Re: Car won't start. Long. Well, I traced the wires from my Crane Ignition box. Can someone tell me where to find instructions on how to un-hook this box. I see how to un-hook the power and ground wires from the box, but there are 2 blue wires that run from the crane box directly to the coil. Were should I look to find the original wires that ran to the coil before the crane box was installed. Also there are 2 small white wires that run from the crane box to the factory harness, and then right into the firewall. __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

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