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Old 09-21-2005, 07:16 PM   #1
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If your motor is in good shape throw a girdle on it and go for it. I know several guys running turbos on stock short blocks running low 11's and high 10's for years.

The stock block easily handles 500 FWHP. Turbos are easier on parts than nitrous and superchargers especially if you go with an auto tranny.

Leave the stock cam in there it will be very streetable and still make killer power.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:27 PM   #2
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You're telling him to slap a turbo on a stock bottom end with God knows how many miles???????? That's INSANE!
At some point he's going to need to rebuild the engine wheather it's because of too many miles or the turbo destroys it...which ever comes first.
He may as well build it now and be ready for the future.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:28 PM   #3
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If your motor is in good shape throw a girdle on it and go for it. I know several guys running turbos on stock short blocks running low 11's and high 10's for years.

The stock block easily handles 500 FWHP. Turbos are easier on parts than nitrous and superchargers especially if you go with an auto tranny.

Leave the stock cam in there it will be very streetable and still make killer power.
Dark, what are you talking about bro? What you say is true, and I guess it all depends on what this dude wants to build.

We've all seen the "horror" pictures of a stock 5.0 block cracked right down the middle along the camshaft. Girdle ain't gonna help that! Sure they can AND HAVE handled 500+ horsepower on a stock block, but that picture is ALWAYS in the back of my mind.

I guess it depends on what our friend is up to. Right now, I'm well over 500 HP on a stock block, and gettin kinda "leary" about it, reason I haven't turned the bottle on yet. YET.

So what's our buddy here doing? Where are we gonna be BEFORE 15 lbs. of boost? I just think that's alot to ask from a stock iron block. I could be wrong, but I got this sneeky suspiscion.....
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:39 PM   #4
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Yup. I'm only running 7 pounds of boost on my stock block . . about to kick it up a bit with the addition of the water/methanol injection kit. But, I have no illusions about the block lasting very long. That's why I'm getting the Man o War block and building an "all forged" 427 . . . so I can boost the bujesus out of it and it won't break.

Blowin the head gasket at the track was merely a warning of things to come . . . .

And . . . YES!!!!! Boost is like crack . . . once you start, you can't get enough . . . you just want more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:58 PM   #5
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If the motor has good compression and oil pressure there is not a problem. There are many guys around here in the 11's and tens with turbos with the stock block without any problems.

Most of us will NEVER and I repeat NEVER will make enough HP to crack the stock block down the middle. Anyone that knows anything about boost will tell you it is usually a melted piston that ends up getting you NOT a cracked block. Avoid detonation and the stock block WILL take you a long way. Aftermarket stuff will break just like stock stuff if you detonate Its all in the tune.

It isnt about what you spend its about the end result.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:12 PM   #6
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Damn haha now i really dont know what to do. I have heard both sides with basically the same answers from a bunch of different people. My motor has 82,537 miles, and like i said tranny was rebuilt about 2000 miles ago. I think im probably going to build the motor. I mean no sense in wasting 5 grand on a kit if im gona have to constanly worry about blowing something up....but then again that turbo seems really nniicee
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:35 AM   #7
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Damn haha now i really dont know what to do. I have heard both sides with basically the same answers from a bunch of different people. My motor has 82,537 miles, and like i said tranny was rebuilt about 2000 miles ago. I think im probably going to build the motor. I mean no sense in wasting 5 grand on a kit if im gona have to constanly worry about blowing something up....but then again that turbo seems really nniicee
Like I said earlier going lean or detonation is what kills boosted motors. You will have to worry about that no matter which way you go. You already have forged pistons so I dont see the point.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:37 AM   #8
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Hey . . don't get me wrong . . I'm happy that I did the blower . . . but with 103,000 miles on my motor . . well . . . lol

And, who knows. Maybe it'll hold together. We'll see.
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Hey . . don't get me wrong . . I'm happy that I did the blower . . . but with 103,000 miles on my motor . . well . . . lol

And, who knows. Maybe it'll hold together. We'll see.
You and him are not in the same boat. You have hypereutectic pistons which are not very boost friendly. I would not boost any more than you currently are. If you closely monitor your fuel and timing you could get away with more but not much more. Even if you do kill your block big deal just get an 88-93 block dirt cheap and get a cheap rebuild and your back in business.

If you had factory forged pistons you could boost the hell out of it and be more worried about head gaskets than the engine.
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