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[Unit 5302]

Originally Posted by Mach 1

Wow, u totally took my comments out of context. Lol....are you imagining things in your head?

I never once said the big 3 were as good as the asians, so why u putting words in my mouth is something i would like to know?

I said they all have had problems, and to say ford had "blah, blah, blah......" wrong with it is stupid, because the same could be done for any manufacture.

Ive personally have had Fords with 110K miles withut any problems at all. And I think they make a better product than GM and Chrysler, and I am surprised to see the amount of Ford bashing that i do because I have had good luck with them.

Try reading more carefluuy and not putting words into peoples mouths.

Sorry about that, Mach. Sometimes people are a little hard to read over the internet. To clairify, Ford's got a bad quality reputation because they are not as good as the Asian auto manufacturers, which is in all honesty, probably a glass half-empty view on things. I would say that Ford builds mostly good cars, but when you're comparing them to exceptionally built cars, you tend to overlook the strides that the domestics have made in terms of quality overall. It doesn't help that the Asian manufacturers have pretty much nailed quality issues down (there will always be some) but they are now targetting European cars for engineering and driving experience. Moving targets are hard to catch If I took stuff out of context, it was unintentional.

69fastback, I'm not really Ford bashing as I am Ford worrying. I like the domestics, and I'm a patriot in my belief that nobody does it better than what we can do in the US. It may be false logic, but a little pride never killed anybody, unless you're talking about the 7 deadly sins, lol. Anwyay, I think it's important for customers of the big 3 to make sure their manufacturer of choice knows what's on the consumers mind so they can build the car we want.

[Mach 1]

Originally Posted by Unit 5302

It doesn't help that the Asian manufacturers have pretty much nailed quality issues down

Yes, they do have better build quality over all, but they have more problems than you might think.

Take the new Titan for example, its rated very poorly in quliaty studies and has had many problems. Nissan brought in 200 engineers to the new plant in Mississippi because they qaulity was terrible, They have improved, but still have issues.

I would find it hard to say the Ford F-150 isnt a superior truck to the Nissan. The Nissan does have a lot going for it, but over all quality might still go to ford on this one.

I dont think the diffeences are as great as you make them out to be. Yes, the imports have the edge, but domestics are decent overall, well, unless its a GM....lol.

[stanger66]

Hey mach 1

Isnt the titan sort of based off the f150 (new one of course) they sort of look the same in out pretty much but the engine I know is different. With me if I had to choose of honda or nissan I would go Nissan. My Mom started with a datsun 240 in the 70's and went to the 300zx tt and now has the g35 coupe. My opinion is that ford is #1 but if I couldnt have it I would probably take nissan over all other cars out there. Especially GM junk!!!!!!!

ross

[Mach 1]

Originally Posted by stanger66

Hey mach 1

Isnt the titan sort of based off the f150 (new one of course) they sort of look the same in out pretty much but the engine I know is different. With me if I had to choose of honda or nissan I would go Nissan. My Mom started with a datsun 240 in the 70's and went to the 300zx tt and now has the g35 coupe. My opinion is that ford is #1 but if I couldnt have it I would probably take nissan over all other cars out there. Especially GM junk!!!!!!!

ross

Well, they are similar in size, but not based off one or the other. The F-150 is the big dog on the block, and what all the other full size truck makers are gunning for to take a piece of the huge sales volume of these vehicles.

The Titan has a better engine/transmission, but has rear end differential failures and some other issues that nissan is trying to improve on, like the brakes. It had bad brakes the first year and a half of production, but they eventually fixed the problem. Took longer than some would have liked.

Theres nothing wrong with Hondas, they will probably edge out Nissan and most others in overall quality and reliability, but they are boring, ugly and no fun to drive.

Pick your poisen....

[stanger66]

Now which one boring, ugly and no fun Nissan or honda

Because when I sold Nissan's it was smoking the tires off the maxs, alts 3.5 version, spec-v 6spds just to have fun the maxs and alts I could burn them through 2nd and spec-v burn through 2nd and chip 3rd and 4th.

[Rev]

Originally Posted by stanger66

Now which one boring, ugly and no fun Nissan or honda

Because when I sold Nissan's it was smoking the tires off the maxs, alts 3.5 version, spec-v 6spds just to have fun the maxs and alts I could burn them through 2nd and spec-v burn through 2nd and chip 3rd and 4th.

I'm always amused when lack of traction is confused with good performance.

Rev