Surging idle

rwhite65 · 08-31-2007, 08:39 PM

not power valve and the intake has been re-torqued and it had some bolts that needed quite a bit

rwhite65 · 09-08-2007, 12:41 AM

So I thought I had it figured out, now I am not sure. However, I think I am chasing it down.

Decided to pull a plug, found that is was very black wit oil....dang it. This torques me off, cause I still have the plugs I ran in the E7TE's and they still look like new after two seasons....

Only three months old....maybe 1,000 miles.

So then I pulled all the rest I can easily get to, all are black....

Just before peeps say it is a Ring or the short block.....negative....all 8 old plugs looked like this after two seasons of driving before my head swap

So I was hoping it was intake gasket leak from hell, but doubt that even though I used the wrong washers on my intake. I am wondering if my freshly prepped heads by a local and reputable racing machine shop....dropped the ball and didn't really check my valve guides. To top it off, my neighbor came over and told me he has noticed a light smoke when I fire the car up here lately.

any opinions? I am trying to figure out where I should go with this before I pull the heads for no reason. I already yanked the intake and I don't see any issues with leaks there.

On a side note, right before I pulled it down, the problem was more pronounced even during a cold start up. I also checked the valve train, adjusted nicely already.
thanks,
Ryan

goodyear1984 · 09-08-2007, 11:05 PM

you should do a compression test and see if u have a valve seat thats not true and are u sure ur push rods are the right size?also if u set the timming a few degrees higher does it go away?

rwhite65 · 09-09-2007, 05:52 PM

Don't know if the push rods are right, but I checked them myself when I ordered them, the right way. Car ran fine for 3 months, so I don't think that is it.

Can't check the other two things until I put the intake back on it

rwhite65 · 09-14-2007, 04:26 PM

Just FYI, it was the Accel plugs. All is back and well again.

08-31-2007, 08:39 PM	#1
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	Re: Surging idle not power valve and the intake has been re-torqued and it had some bolts that needed quite a bit __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored

09-08-2007, 12:41 AM	#2
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	Re: Surging idle So I thought I had it figured out, now I am not sure. However, I think I am chasing it down. Decided to pull a plug, found that is was very black wit oil....dang it. This torques me off, cause I still have the plugs I ran in the E7TE's and they still look like new after two seasons.... Only three months old....maybe 1,000 miles. So then I pulled all the rest I can easily get to, all are black.... Just before peeps say it is a Ring or the short block.....negative....all 8 old plugs looked like this after two seasons of driving before my head swap So I was hoping it was intake gasket leak from hell, but doubt that even though I used the wrong washers on my intake. I am wondering if my freshly prepped heads by a local and reputable racing machine shop....dropped the ball and didn't really check my valve guides. To top it off, my neighbor came over and told me he has noticed a light smoke when I fire the car up here lately. any opinions? I am trying to figure out where I should go with this before I pull the heads for no reason. I already yanked the intake and I don't see any issues with leaks there. On a side note, right before I pulled it down, the problem was more pronounced even during a cold start up. I also checked the valve train, adjusted nicely already. thanks, Ryan __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored

09-08-2007, 11:05 PM	#3
goodyear1984 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: new york Posts: 482	Re: Surging idle you should do a compression test and see if u have a valve seat thats not true and are u sure ur push rods are the right size?also if u set the timming a few degrees higher does it go away? __________________ 347 stroker all forged,arp everything,stud mains w/girdle,7qt pan,full roller, custom cam, aluminum heads swirl valves 5 angle valve job.quick fuel 750,areomotive pump,cobras w/nitto drags,and m/t et drags for the track, ford racing 373 gears,centerforce clutch,tko500,underdrive pulleys,bassani x-pipe,flowmasters ^best et so far 11.6 1.61 60ft coming soon 9sec et's 1992 mustang gt 2001 gmc 1500 4x4 78 century boat 92 skidoo

09-09-2007, 05:52 PM	#4
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	Re: Surging idle Don't know if the push rods are right, but I checked them myself when I ordered them, the right way. Car ran fine for 3 months, so I don't think that is it. Can't check the other two things until I put the intake back on it __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored

09-14-2007, 04:26 PM	#5
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	Re: Surging idle Just FYI, it was the Accel plugs. All is back and well again. __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored

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