1965 with a 302 A.O.D

Neal Jackson · 07-26-1999, 11:27 AM

Jim,

As 66fastback says, the front end of the engine can get a bit challenging to align pulleys if you plan to retain the stock 65 radiator with the passenger side lower hose.

It is virtually impossible to find Ford pulleys for the 4 bolt harmonic balancer on the 302 that will align with the older style water pump pulley. It can be done (I did it with our car, after about a month of searching and then removing the front V groove off the lower pulley since we only needed one V groove) and if this is the way you decide to go I'd recommend getting in touch with March Performance in Michigan (website at www.marchperf.com, I believe) as they have the perfect underdrive V groove (1, 2 or 3 grooves) for this combination of old and new, cost is about $230.00 for a billet aluminum set.

If you go this route you will probably end up needing to change the timing chain cover (which will possibly cause a relocation of the timing pointer (not fun)), the water pump, pulleys, belts and a few more things if you keep the accessories such as smog, A/C, power steering, if applicable, etc.

Or, you can just stay with the stock 302 stuff and go for a different radiator, which, when you start adding things up, is probably the most feasible way to go, from all aspects. With a new radiator you will also get diagonally mounted hose connections, which, some folks feel provides for better cooling and flow within the radiator, as opposed to having both hose connections on the same passengers side on the upflow radiator. You can also enlarge the radiator at the same time, to add to the cooling capabilities.

I believe the tranny mount crossmember will be the only item needed, other than perhaps some driveshaft work, for that end of the application (not sure, but the front driveshaft yoke may differ also).

I think you'll have far less headaches and less $100.00 surprises if you can put the engine in as is and change out the radiator - that's what I'd do.

Good Luck and let us know how it goes.

Neal

[This message has been edited by Neal Jackson (edited 07-26-1999).]

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07-26-1999, 11:27 AM	#3
Neal Jackson Registered Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Posts: 26	Jim, As 66fastback says, the front end of the engine can get a bit challenging to align pulleys if you plan to retain the stock 65 radiator with the passenger side lower hose. It is virtually impossible to find Ford pulleys for the 4 bolt harmonic balancer on the 302 that will align with the older style water pump pulley. It can be done (I did it with our car, after about a month of searching and then removing the front V groove off the lower pulley since we only needed one V groove) and if this is the way you decide to go I'd recommend getting in touch with March Performance in Michigan (website at www.marchperf.com, I believe) as they have the perfect underdrive V groove (1, 2 or 3 grooves) for this combination of old and new, cost is about $230.00 for a billet aluminum set. If you go this route you will probably end up needing to change the timing chain cover (which will possibly cause a relocation of the timing pointer (not fun)), the water pump, pulleys, belts and a few more things if you keep the accessories such as smog, A/C, power steering, if applicable, etc. Or, you can just stay with the stock 302 stuff and go for a different radiator, which, when you start adding things up, is probably the most feasible way to go, from all aspects. With a new radiator you will also get diagonally mounted hose connections, which, some folks feel provides for better cooling and flow within the radiator, as opposed to having both hose connections on the same passengers side on the upflow radiator. You can also enlarge the radiator at the same time, to add to the cooling capabilities. I believe the tranny mount crossmember will be the only item needed, other than perhaps some driveshaft work, for that end of the application (not sure, but the front driveshaft yoke may differ also). I think you'll have far less headaches and less $100.00 surprises if you can put the engine in as is and change out the radiator - that's what I'd do. Good Luck and let us know how it goes. Neal [This message has been edited by Neal Jackson (edited 07-26-1999).]