Yet another "How much HP am I looking at" thread

Killercanary · 02-09-2001, 07:31 PM

SaleenGTS- I'm with you all the way.
UNIT- Unless 2fastLX is having a professional full port done, complete with bigger valves- it is impossible. I'm not a new-be to mustangs. I speak from my own experiences with my car, my dad's 91GT, my cousin's 94GT, and a host of others. I also go to the track every thursday for test and tune- where better to see what works and what doesn't. Like I said above, if he can achieve this, more power to him, but I don't see it. 310rwhp???- absolutely no way. Most 5.0's with aluminum after market heads, intake, cam, and the everything else usually have around 255-270rwhp without a lot of tuning, now I'm saying most but it all depends on which parts, if they are properly matched, etc.
I'll be the first to agree that there lies power in stock heads, at least more than most believe. Look at me, I went from 15.2's at 90mph to 13.8's at 98, and I have not touched the heads, cam, RR's, MAF, and injectors.
Let's take my dad's 91GT for example- bone stock it ran a 14.60 at 94mph. With 3.55's, x pipe, borla mufflers, pulleys, cold air induction, subframe connectors, and Mickey Thompson Sportman Pro tires he runs 13.7's at 97.9mph, but that's with 1.89 60's. So I do agree that an 89GT with these types of mods can run in the 13's, but not without a really good driver and a good set of tires. His car is also pretty light, it weighs 3200lbs without him.
I'm not here to argue, like I said before, this is just my opinion, but I feel if people are going to express their opinion they should have something concrete to base their opinion on. There are tons of stangs at Keystone (my home track), anyone that's ever been there can attest to this, and there are quite a few with heads, cam, intake, etc; but 90% of them are still just 13 second cars, it is very seldom that I see a 12 second pass up there. If 2fastlx can get his car and him to weigh around 3100 together, he uses a good traction tire, and drives the heck out of it, he'll be in the low low 13's, and on a cold night at a low elevation track- it may very well be possible for him to break into the 12's, but I don't think it will be on a consistent basis if he does.
BTW-My buddy that runs 13.5's does in fact have unported E7TE's, and yes there may be a big mismatch, ie. too much cam, ports are not matched creating turbulent flow, etc... This was just an example for reference, nothing more. It's too hard to compare apples for apples in this hobby, everyone knows that there are just too many variables at stake.

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Best ET: 13.83
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02-09-2001, 07:31 PM	#14
Killercanary Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Altoona, PA Posts: 336	SaleenGTS- I'm with you all the way. UNIT- Unless 2fastLX is having a professional full port done, complete with bigger valves- it is impossible. I'm not a new-be to mustangs. I speak from my own experiences with my car, my dad's 91GT, my cousin's 94GT, and a host of others. I also go to the track every thursday for test and tune- where better to see what works and what doesn't. Like I said above, if he can achieve this, more power to him, but I don't see it. 310rwhp???- absolutely no way. Most 5.0's with aluminum after market heads, intake, cam, and the everything else usually have around 255-270rwhp without a lot of tuning, now I'm saying most but it all depends on which parts, if they are properly matched, etc. I'll be the first to agree that there lies power in stock heads, at least more than most believe. Look at me, I went from 15.2's at 90mph to 13.8's at 98, and I have not touched the heads, cam, RR's, MAF, and injectors. Let's take my dad's 91GT for example- bone stock it ran a 14.60 at 94mph. With 3.55's, x pipe, borla mufflers, pulleys, cold air induction, subframe connectors, and Mickey Thompson Sportman Pro tires he runs 13.7's at 97.9mph, but that's with 1.89 60's. So I do agree that an 89GT with these types of mods can run in the 13's, but not without a really good driver and a good set of tires. His car is also pretty light, it weighs 3200lbs without him. I'm not here to argue, like I said before, this is just my opinion, but I feel if people are going to express their opinion they should have something concrete to base their opinion on. There are tons of stangs at Keystone (my home track), anyone that's ever been there can attest to this, and there are quite a few with heads, cam, intake, etc; but 90% of them are still just 13 second cars, it is very seldom that I see a 12 second pass up there. If 2fastlx can get his car and him to weigh around 3100 together, he uses a good traction tire, and drives the heck out of it, he'll be in the low low 13's, and on a cold night at a low elevation track- it may very well be possible for him to break into the 12's, but I don't think it will be on a consistent basis if he does. BTW-My buddy that runs 13.5's does in fact have unported E7TE's, and yes there may be a big mismatch, ie. too much cam, ports are not matched creating turbulent flow, etc... This was just an example for reference, nothing more. It's too hard to compare apples for apples in this hobby, everyone knows that there are just too many variables at stake. ------------------ 95 GT convt' 5 speed, 3.73's,FMS HD clutch, Pro 5.0 shifter, ASP alum. underdrive pulleys, Bassani offroad X pipe, 2 chmbr flowmasters, K&N w/o silencer, edelbrock performer intake, FRPP 65mm T-body, FRPP shorty headers, FRPP aluminum driveshaft.Hooker 4pt chrome car bar, Xenon/Wings West ground effects, custom interior Best ET: 13.83 Best MPH: 98.55mph with Best 60': 1.91 on Nitto DR's Homepage: <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/killercanary" TARGET=_blank>http://www.angelfire.