how fast have you guys gone with a stock motor - Page 2

chatcher · 01-13-2002, 10:01 PM

14.75 with h-pipe and flowmaster catback also have cold air inka bbk

Coupe5oh · 01-14-2002, 01:37 AM

Well i have to be heard on this, elevation might play a role in this, but if anyone remebers my old sig, I had at one time: just removed silencer, box with knN, all cat cvters, 3cbr mufflers, aluminum d/s, going 14.1's.

with electric fan and swaybar removal, i nailed a 13.91 on little tires in sig with a 2.0 60', i could have made a 13.80 easily i know, now with my h-pipe and SFC's, and my friends e,t, streets, i ran 13.6 on a very humid night, and the tires were to low psi bogging, with more air in them i could have cut a 1.7 and seen 13,4

but unit i dont believe your car will trap more than 100mph, maybe 99, but being you can stay in 3rd you will be close, but with stock h-pipe i dont see it happening, plus the stock cluch fan really drags a stang down on the topend. your looking at g-teck maybe.

Rick 91GT · 01-14-2002, 08:34 AM

Well bone stock except a Flowmaster American Thunder cat back, I went 14.7 @ 95 or so if I remember correctly, that was with a 5spd and 2.73 gears on BFG's COMP TA's 245/45/16ZR tires, I don't remember the exact 60ft but it was 2.0, and I have no idea what the light was.

I agree with poopstang..A LOT IS IN THE DRIVER.

Blownpony91- Where at in MD are you? Use to live in MD but moved to get away from all the emissions bull, now I'm right over the MD/PA line.

mean81GT · 01-14-2002, 11:19 AM

Muscle Mustangs and fast fords did an article a few years ago about this exact topic. the article was all naturalally aspirated, and while some of them were extreme engines, a few of them were mostly stock.

the one that comes to memory was an 87 LX. stripped, slicks, 5 speed, weighing 2400 lbs, launching at some oddball rpm, something like 5000 rpm, ran a low 12 at something like 105. i forget exactly what the specs were. i will try and find the article and get back to you.

but it is veeeeery possible. it is all DRIVER and WEIGHT.

Jeb_Bush_2000 · 01-14-2002, 11:23 AM

It's weird how the trap speeds and ETs differ.

Rick 91GT trapped a mile per hour faster than me, but with a six-tenths higher ET...guess that means he had better top-end but I got a better launch?

Blownpony91 · 01-14-2002, 12:39 PM

Rick, im from the baltimore area.

I usually race at capital raceway if you know the place, where were you from?

Dark_5.0 · 01-14-2002, 12:54 PM

My car ran a 15.4 @89 @3000ft bone stock 88GT vert

Rick 91GT · 01-14-2002, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blownpony91
Rick, im from the baltimore area.

I usually race at capital raceway if you know the place, where were you from?

Well I am from the Manchester/Westminster area and I lived in the Reisterstown area for about 2 years. I actually have some buddies from the Glen Burnie area and I have raced at Capitol although Fri nights there can get crazy.

I usually race at 75/80 or Mason Dixion and did hit Cecil County a few times last year as well.

I won both of the Ford Shootouts last year at 75/80.

gtsr515 · 01-14-2002, 02:40 PM

Well, I never ran with 2.73's, my car came with a 3.08.

But, the "stockest" I ran it was with a short belt and a race crank pulley, but that was with slicks and it went 13.40, I forget the mph.

SKYWLKR · 01-14-2002, 03:00 PM

I went

13.30@101

stock full weight 88 GT with pep boy tires on a high 1.8 60 ft.

car has cat X-pipe, dyno max cat back,Ram air and timing advance.. thats it. still stock gears (posi went last trip so she might get some 3:27 's soon).

fast as I've seen..... I am going for 12's with nittos ,iceing intake and short belt.

rick8750 · 01-14-2002, 03:56 PM

I don't consider gears and exhaust stock. I have had 4 mustangs and i think i'm an ok driver with 15 years of street racing experience. and i can say that i have NEVER run mid 13's on a bone stock mustang even with slicks and a good launch. Alot of blood sweat and tears went into all of my decent sprints.

01-14-2002, 04:12 PM

He didn't ask about a stock car... he asked about stock motor..

My car was a 15sec ride with the stock motor(aod vert).

rick8750 · 01-14-2002, 04:31 PM

well, I stand corrected. Thankyou.

Coupe5oh · 01-14-2002, 04:49 PM

Rick, how do you stand corrected? now talking about weight, I could have dropped my spare, and my smog pump, and maybe dropped an extra tenth? so with e.t. streets, and before all of the mods in my sig(wow my `oh so powerful mods) i could have gone 13.8's. It has alot to do with driving, im still using a stock shifter too, On my 13.9 run i was launching at idle, thats all my 225/60's would take, i'll admit, i only ran that once on street tires, and the electric fan and swaybar removal isnt stock, but I believe all stangs should have came with electric fans.

Then again i see guys running stock fox gt's that can't break outta the 15's, even with gears and free mods.....

Rick 91GT · 01-14-2002, 05:06 PM

I see that at the track all the time you have some good running cars and some bad, I still feel a lot is in the driver and I guess it depends what day of the week that motor was put together.

At the track I race guys with blower, N2O, and strokers and beat them all day long, they always scream cheater and that I have a stroker, they can't seam to get it through their thick skulls that you ca have a good running NA 302, it really shocks them to see it bring the wheels off the ground

Wait till this season

5ohCOUPE · 01-14-2002, 06:10 PM

The last post i put in here was with an H pipe and K&N. This will give you an idea of what a totally stock stang will run. This was when i first got it. Stock H pipe and no K&N. Just bumped up timing And thats it. On slicks. 14.12 @ 96. On radials. 14.41 @ 94. Of course this is a coupe so its a little lighter than a GT or Hatchback.

Blownpony91 · 01-14-2002, 06:31 PM

Rick,
i ride through glen burnie every once and a while but lately ive heard that the cops are cracking down on people. i havent had the chance to go any where but capital, but i heard that mason dixon is really nice track.
are you going to be going to any ford meets this year?

Rick 91GT · 01-15-2002, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blownpony91
Rick,
i ride through glen burnie every once and a while but lately ive heard that the cops are cracking down on people. i havent had the chance to go any where but capital, but i heard that mason dixon is really nice track.
are you going to be going to any ford meets this year?

Yeah..the last time I crusied down there a lot of cops were out, they look for off road pipes down there, atleast I have PA tags now.

I plan to hit all the meets this year at 75/80 (I need to defend my title

) and Mason and Cecil, and if all goes well I will be racing at the NMRA Ford Nats in Maple Grove. I'll let you know when they are and maybe you cna make a few.

I just started taking my car apart for all the winter/spring additions, I am getting the car painted and may be adding a few small goodies. It just has to be all together for the Ocean City Hot Rod Weekend in May, what a blast that is, we trailered my car down last year but it rained a lot only drove it a little bit down there.

Keep In Touch,

Rick
Home E-mail Rick91GT@onemain.com

Blownpony91 · 01-15-2002, 05:01 PM

Thats cool, let me know when the meets are when your going, if you want you can e-mail me Homrunhitr22@hotmail.com.

im in the same boat with my car im putting in a new engine hopefully by the end of the this month.

My brother was down the ocean last year he told me about all the rain, but he drives a 89 camaro so you probably didnt pay any attention to him, lol

Rick 91GT · 01-16-2002, 08:09 AM

lol..just as I drove bye him

I'll let you know about the races, good luck with the motor swap.

01-13-2002, 10:01 PM	#21
chatcher Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: butler pa Posts: 303	14.75 with h-pipe and flowmaster catback also have cold air inka bbk __________________ 92lx wannabe saleen

01-14-2002, 01:37 AM	#22
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	Well i have to be heard on this, elevation might play a role in this, but if anyone remebers my old sig, I had at one time: just removed silencer, box with knN, all cat cvters, 3cbr mufflers, aluminum d/s, going 14.1's. with electric fan and swaybar removal, i nailed a 13.91 on little tires in sig with a 2.0 60', i could have made a 13.80 easily i know, now with my h-pipe and SFC's, and my friends e,t, streets, i ran 13.6 on a very humid night, and the tires were to low psi bogging, with more air in them i could have cut a 1.7 and seen 13,4 but unit i dont believe your car will trap more than 100mph, maybe 99, but being you can stay in 3rd you will be close, but with stock h-pipe i dont see it happening, plus the stock cluch fan really drags a stang down on the topend. your looking at g-teck maybe. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

01-14-2002, 08:34 AM	#23
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	Well bone stock except a Flowmaster American Thunder cat back, I went 14.7 @ 95 or so if I remember correctly, that was with a 5spd and 2.73 gears on BFG's COMP TA's 245/45/16ZR tires, I don't remember the exact 60ft but it was 2.0, and I have no idea what the light was. I agree with poopstang..A LOT IS IN THE DRIVER. Blownpony91- Where at in MD are you? Use to live in MD but moved to get away from all the emissions bull, now I'm right over the MD/PA line. __________________ *D/R 10108 NMRA Drag Radial, 25.5 chassis, F1R* *Check out RNH Performance Performance Engines and Custom Fabrication.* *From Mild to Wild we can build what you want, when you want it.* FOR SALE Stainless Steel Torque Box Supports

01-14-2002, 11:19 AM	#24
mean81GT Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NY Posts: 299	Muscle Mustangs and fast fords did an article a few years ago about this exact topic. the article was all naturalally aspirated, and while some of them were extreme engines, a few of them were mostly stock. the one that comes to memory was an 87 LX. stripped, slicks, 5 speed, weighing 2400 lbs, launching at some oddball rpm, something like 5000 rpm, ran a low 12 at something like 105. i forget exactly what the specs were. i will try and find the article and get back to you. but it is veeeeery possible. it is all DRIVER and WEIGHT. __________________ I'm a glutton for punishment.

01-14-2002, 11:23 AM	#25
Jeb_Bush_2000 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Taxachusetts Posts: 374	It's weird how the trap speeds and ETs differ. Rick 91GT trapped a mile per hour faster than me, but with a six-tenths higher ET...guess that means he had better top-end but I got a better launch? __________________ Stripped-down '93 LX Coupe -- "Danielle" R.I.P. 05/30/02 "I've seen some crazy stuff in my life, but that...was...AWESOME!!! Oh, sorry about your car, man."

01-14-2002, 12:39 PM	#26
Blownpony91 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: balto., Md United States Posts: 32	Rick, im from the baltimore area. I usually race at capital raceway if you know the place, where were you from?

01-14-2002, 12:54 PM	#27
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	My car ran a 15.4 @89 @3000ft bone stock 88GT vert __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-14-2002, 02:40 PM	#29
gtsr515 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sunny, Hot, Sebring, Florida Posts: 725	Well, I never ran with 2.73's, my car came with a 3.08. But, the "stockest" I ran it was with a short belt and a race crank pulley, but that was with slicks and it went 13.40, I forget the mph. __________________ Remember...2nd place is 1st place for losers!

01-14-2002, 03:00 PM	#30
SKYWLKR Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 103	I went 13.30@101 stock full weight 88 GT with pep boy tires on a high 1.8 60 ft. car has cat X-pipe, dyno max cat back,Ram air and timing advance.. thats it. still stock gears (posi went last trip so she might get some 3:27 's soon). fast as I've seen..... I am going for 12's with nittos ,iceing intake and short belt. __________________ A.K.A. The LS1 Eater 89 LX 5.0 Mustang Edel. performer 5.0's, GT-40 & E-cam to name a few. Well it is now Unnatural! 10psi from an S-trim = 11.40@126 mph on street radials. 12.3@111.7 N/A , 11.8@115 a ~60 shot.(#.47 jet) 92 Miata classic red 15.9@86 with exhaust only. http://members.aol.com/jeauxmoe/index.html

01-14-2002, 03:56 PM	#31
rick8750 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 15	13's stock... NOT I don't consider gears and exhaust stock. I have had 4 mustangs and i think i'm an ok driver with 15 years of street racing experience. and i can say that i have NEVER run mid 13's on a bone stock mustang even with slicks and a good launch. Alot of blood sweat and tears went into all of my decent sprints. __________________ 87 DropTop NA (Project Sleeper 12.8) BBK Shorty Headers, 2 chamber FlowMasters dumped at axle. 3.73 gear, Crank Pully, 1.7 RollerRockers, MSD Blaster Kit 9MM wireset, ported upper and lower, blocked EGR port. 65MM EGR plate and TB, k&N filtercharger, Electric fan, Homespun ramair, ratio eprom, 24# injectors, 1" phenolic plenum spacer, FR Fuel pump, 15 deg TDC Best 12.886 @ 108.56

01-14-2002, 04:12 PM	#32
rbatson Guest Posts: n/a	He didn't ask about a stock car... he asked about stock motor.. My car was a 15sec ride with the stock motor(aod vert).

01-14-2002, 04:31 PM	#33
rick8750 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 15	well, I stand corrected. Thankyou. __________________ 87 DropTop NA (Project Sleeper 12.8) BBK Shorty Headers, 2 chamber FlowMasters dumped at axle. 3.73 gear, Crank Pully, 1.7 RollerRockers, MSD Blaster Kit 9MM wireset, ported upper and lower, blocked EGR port. 65MM EGR plate and TB, k&N filtercharger, Electric fan, Homespun ramair, ratio eprom, 24# injectors, 1" phenolic plenum spacer, FR Fuel pump, 15 deg TDC Best 12.886 @ 108.56

01-14-2002, 04:49 PM	#34
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	Rick, how do you stand corrected? now talking about weight, I could have dropped my spare, and my smog pump, and maybe dropped an extra tenth? so with e.t. streets, and before all of the mods in my sig(wow my `oh so powerful mods) i could have gone 13.8's. It has alot to do with driving, im still using a stock shifter too, On my 13.9 run i was launching at idle, thats all my 225/60's would take, i'll admit, i only ran that once on street tires, and the electric fan and swaybar removal isnt stock, but I believe all stangs should have came with electric fans. Then again i see guys running stock fox gt's that can't break outta the 15's, even with gears and free mods..... __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

01-14-2002, 05:06 PM	#35
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	I see that at the track all the time you have some good running cars and some bad, I still feel a lot is in the driver and I guess it depends what day of the week that motor was put together. At the track I race guys with blower, N2O, and strokers and beat them all day long, they always scream cheater and that I have a stroker, they can't seam to get it through their thick skulls that you ca have a good running NA 302, it really shocks them to see it bring the wheels off the ground Wait till this season __________________ *D/R 10108 NMRA Drag Radial, 25.5 chassis, F1R* *Check out RNH Performance Performance Engines and Custom Fabrication.* *From Mild to Wild we can build what you want, when you want it.* FOR SALE Stainless Steel Torque Box Supports

01-14-2002, 06:10 PM	#36
5ohCOUPE Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ORANGE PARK FL. USA Posts: 208	The last post i put in here was with an H pipe and K&N. This will give you an idea of what a totally stock stang will run. This was when i first got it. Stock H pipe and no K&N. Just bumped up timing And thats it. On slicks. 14.12 @ 96. On radials. 14.41 @ 94. Of course this is a coupe so its a little lighter than a GT or Hatchback. __________________ 91 LX COUPE, 3.73 gears, 2 1/2 inch H-Pipe, 1 5/8 MAC long tube headers, 73 MM C&L MAF, 70 MM MAC TB, LUNATI cam,1.7 TFS Rockers, TFS Track Heat heads, TFS Track Heat intake, T5 with PRO 5.0 shifter, Griffin aluminum radiator, Fluid Damper, SSM traction bars, 190 GPH in tank fuel pump. And more to come.

01-14-2002, 06:31 PM	#37
Blownpony91 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: balto., Md United States Posts: 32	Rick, i ride through glen burnie every once and a while but lately ive heard that the cops are cracking down on people. i havent had the chance to go any where but capital, but i heard that mason dixon is really nice track. are you going to be going to any ford meets this year?

01-15-2002, 05:01 PM	#39
Blownpony91 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: balto., Md United States Posts: 32	Thats cool, let me know when the meets are when your going, if you want you can e-mail me Homrunhitr22@hotmail.com. im in the same boat with my car im putting in a new engine hopefully by the end of the this month. My brother was down the ocean last year he told me about all the rain, but he drives a 89 camaro so you probably didnt pay any attention to him, lol

01-16-2002, 08:09 AM	#40
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	lol..just as I drove bye him I'll let you know about the races, good luck with the motor swap. __________________ *D/R 10108 NMRA Drag Radial, 25.5 chassis, F1R* *Check out RNH Performance Performance Engines and Custom Fabrication.* *From Mild to Wild we can build what you want, when you want it.* FOR SALE Stainless Steel Torque Box Supports

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