Hey (speed density) people........is this guy right or what??

Dark_5.0 · 12-01-2001, 10:57 PM

Ok heres the deal, this guy that I work with builds race car engines for serious drag racers. IHRA cars and stuff like that, he tells me that if I get some Mickey Thompson slicks, finaly weld in my sub-frames and let him port and polish my heads and intake and do a 3 angle valve job along with, a B303 cam, FPR and 24# injectors that I can drop from a 14.79 to a 13.5-13.7.

I am a little skeptical but he will do the work to my heads for $260.00, and the intake for $100.00. I already have 24# injectors sitting in the shop.

LS1's only run 13.7-14.0 where I live cause of the altittude so if this guy is right I could make some serious cash on the street with my stock looking vert.

So all together the new stuff I would have would be.

Slicks
sub-frames
port and polished heads
port and polished intake
24# injectors
FPR
B303 cam

Does this sound like it would drop a second off of my E.T. to you???

Thanks in advance "Be brutaly honest cause I dont want to waste my money"

PKRWUD · 12-01-2001, 11:00 PM

I believe him.

Take care,
-Chris

DRASTiK · 12-01-2001, 11:10 PM

I'd say it's definately possible, especially with some good driving.

1BAD89 · 12-02-2001, 02:37 AM

Slicks
sub-frames
port and polished heads
port and polished intake
24# injectors
FPR
B303 cam

Just the slicks would knock off 4-5 tenths. And all the other stuff would knock off I'd guess 4 tenths plus. So yeah I think you'd DEFINATELY have a 13 second car. Good luck with it.

1BAD89 · 12-02-2001, 02:48 AM

Ok I take back the slicks comment. I didn't see that you were running DR's. So knock off a tenth or maybe two for the slicks, maybe none....A bunch of people are actually running faster with DR's. I would think with all that, you'd be pretty close to 13's.....but you never know, until you try it!

mustangbob19 · 12-02-2001, 05:58 AM

Those times are definately posiible.

93CobraR · 12-02-2001, 10:58 AM

Yeah, it should run mid 13's or so. But ditch the 24 lbs. injectors. You don't need them and their not going to work right with speed density. I'm still running 19 lb injectors and have plenty of fuel. 88workcar that uses this board is a speed density expert, and he has tried every combo just about, and 24lbs. injectors would never work right for him. Just my $.02

tireburner163 · 12-02-2001, 11:17 AM

will the B303 work with speed density? I didn't think it would.

Five0 · 12-02-2001, 11:50 AM

My old 88 gt ran a 13.4@105 2.0 60ft with stock heads, stock ported intake, under drive pullies, chip, stock gutted cats, dynomax mufflers, 3.55 gears, traction bars, sub frames, homemade ram air, k&n, stock headers, electric fan, no smog pump, and an aftermarket coil "the old one died". I did this on cheap bfg 225/60/15's. So I would think it is entirely possible to even get it into the 12's if done right.

vande97 · 12-02-2001, 12:37 PM

you should be able to run that cam with little or no driving problems, i have speed density and i run a little bigger cam then the b cam and it works ok, just tune it in good with the regulator and you should be good, you might notice a rolling idel a little but nothing you wont be able to deal with,

Unit 5302 · 12-02-2001, 01:07 PM

One of my best friends ran 24lb/hr injectors on his stock 87 GT with speed density.

It never cared. Ran just fine.

I think the 19lb injectors are better with an AFPR though.

Yan88gt · 12-02-2001, 05:59 PM

I'm running 12 with this combo. I 'm running 1.7 roller rockers with the stock cam and the stock injectors. I've also removed some weight.

Dark_5.0 · 12-02-2001, 08:05 PM

Thanks for your opinions guys I am taking off my heads this week and taking them to this guy. I think that the slicks will help me alot cause I spin the crap out of my drag radials, I have to leave at an idle and gradualy give it gas or they go up in smoke.

I guess that I will stick with the 19# injectors.

Thanks guys

Skyman · 12-04-2001, 01:08 PM

Thats a great price for the porting,m heads/intake and valve job.

Skyler

12-01-2001, 10:57 PM	#1
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Hey (speed density) people........is this guy right or what?? Ok heres the deal, this guy that I work with builds race car engines for serious drag racers. IHRA cars and stuff like that, he tells me that if I get some Mickey Thompson slicks, finaly weld in my sub-frames and let him port and polish my heads and intake and do a 3 angle valve job along with, a B303 cam, FPR and 24# injectors that I can drop from a 14.79 to a 13.5-13.7. I am a little skeptical but he will do the work to my heads for $260.00, and the intake for $100.00. I already have 24# injectors sitting in the shop. LS1's only run 13.7-14.0 where I live cause of the altittude so if this guy is right I could make some serious cash on the street with my stock looking vert. So all together the new stuff I would have would be. Slicks sub-frames port and polished heads port and polished intake 24# injectors FPR B303 cam Does this sound like it would drop a second off of my E.T. to you??? Thanks in advance "Be brutaly honest cause I dont want to waste my money" __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

12-01-2001, 11:00 PM	#2
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	I believe him. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

12-02-2001, 10:58 AM	#7
93CobraR Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,575	Yeah, it should run mid 13's or so. But ditch the 24 lbs. injectors. You don't need them and their not going to work right with speed density. I'm still running 19 lb injectors and have plenty of fuel. 88workcar that uses this board is a speed density expert, and he has tried every combo just about, and 24lbs. injectors would never work right for him. Just my $.02 __________________ 87 GT, Cobra R's,GT-40 heads,Crane 2031,1.7's, Edelbrock intake, long tubes,BBK cold air, Mass air,pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra,Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's. Best time 12.759 Best MPH 106.79 Best 60' 1.695 71 Nova SS 350, 4 spd. 4.11s, ect..... Visit my site at: http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html

12-02-2001, 11:17 AM	#8
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	will the B303 work with speed density? I didn't think it would. __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

12-02-2001, 11:50 AM	#9
Five0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: middleburg, fl, usa Posts: 1,134	My old 88 gt ran a 13.4@105 2.0 60ft with stock heads, stock ported intake, under drive pullies, chip, stock gutted cats, dynomax mufflers, 3.55 gears, traction bars, sub frames, homemade ram air, k&n, stock headers, electric fan, no smog pump, and an aftermarket coil "the old one died". I did this on cheap bfg 225/60/15's. So I would think it is entirely possible to even get it into the 12's if done right. __________________ James Cox RHC Member #44 nochevy@hotmail.com 1991 Mustang LX Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, kooks 1 7/8" race headers, and much more. Engine built by Brent Frazier.

12-01-2001, 11:10 PM	#3
DRASTiK Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 536	I'd say it's definately possible, especially with some good driving.

12-02-2001, 02:37 AM	#4
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	Slicks sub-frames port and polished heads port and polished intake 24# injectors FPR B303 cam Just the slicks would knock off 4-5 tenths. And all the other stuff would knock off I'd guess 4 tenths plus. So yeah I think you'd DEFINATELY have a 13 second car. Good luck with it.

12-02-2001, 02:48 AM	#5
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	Ok I take back the slicks comment. I didn't see that you were running DR's. So knock off a tenth or maybe two for the slicks, maybe none....A bunch of people are actually running faster with DR's. I would think with all that, you'd be pretty close to 13's.....but you never know, until you try it!

12-02-2001, 05:58 AM	#6
mustangbob19 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Minnesota Posts: 125	Those times are definately posiible.

12-02-2001, 12:37 PM	#10
vande97 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: okemos Posts: 205	you should be able to run that cam with little or no driving problems, i have speed density and i run a little bigger cam then the b cam and it works ok, just tune it in good with the regulator and you should be good, you might notice a rolling idel a little but nothing you wont be able to deal with,

12-02-2001, 01:07 PM	#11
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	One of my best friends ran 24lb/hr injectors on his stock 87 GT with speed density. It never cared. Ran just fine. I think the 19lb injectors are better with an AFPR though.

12-02-2001, 05:59 PM	#12
Yan88gt Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Quebec canada Posts: 92	I'm running 12 with this combo. I 'm running 1.7 roller rockers with the stock cam and the stock injectors. I've also removed some weight. __________________ Ported stock heads and intake, 65mm throttle body, 1.7 roller rockers, pulley, superchip,afpr, electric fan, motorsport headers, magnaflow cat-back, hurst shifter, 3.55 gear, speed density computer 12.81@ 104.7 on E.T street (1.77)

12-02-2001, 08:05 PM	#13
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Thanks for your opinions guys I am taking off my heads this week and taking them to this guy. I think that the slicks will help me alot cause I spin the crap out of my drag radials, I have to leave at an idle and gradualy give it gas or they go up in smoke. I guess that I will stick with the 19# injectors. Thanks guys __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

12-04-2001, 01:08 PM	#14
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Thats a great price for the porting,m heads/intake and valve job. Skyler __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

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