Ford vs............Honda??

bigwhitecobra · 12-04-2001, 08:22 AM

Ok, since the F-body's are going to the great big junkyard in the sky......who's our new competitor?

Wo are we going to line up against at the tracks? And don't say the 'Vette, there just aren't enough of them.

I guess it's up to Honda, Mitsubitchy, and the like. Isn't Dodge going to make us a honorable challenge? What happened to the GTO concept?

I was happy to get rid of the Camaro and Firechicken, but thinking about it, I think it may do more harm than good for us.

Later.

Coupe Devil · 12-04-2001, 09:18 AM

Your right man. Actually dodge is supposed to make an honorable challenger, The 2003 Challenger. All we know so far is it will be sleek, low, v8 rear drive, sedan. There aren't any performance numbers yet. Check out Motor Trend. Thats where I seen the latest news.
Brad

mustangman65_79 · 12-04-2001, 09:21 AM

I think with the new t-birds out, it will be ford vs ford. Or with ppl like me New vs Old Ford

bigwhitecobra · 12-04-2001, 10:25 AM

Those new Thunderchickens are extremely wimpy. They've reverted back to the orignal concept, a luxo barge that looks good. Which is one thing that cars does real good.

Why doesn't Dodge bring back the 440? Even the 340 would be a good start. Something.

While I'm on the subject, Ford needs to put the 5.4 in the Mustang before I have a conniption(sp?). Stop jerkin' us around and just do it!! And someone needs to offer a Vortech instead of a Roots blower from the dealer.

Ok, I'm done ranting for now. But...I'll be back.(In my very best Arnold voice)

Coupe Devil · 12-04-2001, 11:11 AM

I have never been an avid Chevrolet follower unless were talking 69 Camaro. How ever I have tried to follow what Dodge was doing new and I must say I would really like to see a new 2003 Challener with a Hemi 360. Hell add a roots type blower on it and you got yourself a car then.

I would also shiate my pants when Ford actullay decides to do a 5.4 in a stang. Hey add the roots blower of the Lightning, and where talking serious fun.
Brad

Fox Body · 12-04-2001, 06:50 PM

Whoooa there Nelly. As soon as GM stops production on the Fart-bodies (j/k), all of them ain't ganna just disappear. You still gonna have to worry about the '98-'03 (end date?). They'll soon die out too, in what, about 5, 10 years?

Actually, I think Ford is gonna start going for the Corvettes. Yes, the C5, C6, etc, will be our new competitor.

And maybe the WRX's. Hopefully they'll bring the Skyline GT-R to America so I can buy one

. (<<----what are you talking about???)

*listen to me yapping like I'm some automotive authority

*

fiveohpatrol · 12-04-2001, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fox Body
Whoooa there Nelly. As soon as GM stops production on the Fart-bodies (j/k), all of them ain't ganna just disappear.

no, didn't you hear, GM is going to the house of every Camaro/Firebird buyer, slapping them in the face for being retarted, reimbursing them because they bought a crappy product, and then taking the car back, so actually they will all disappear

well i was actually gonna say the same thing about the others not disappearing, but Fox Body already did and i wanted to say something anyway

TJR · 12-04-2001, 07:14 PM

I'm pretty sure that the Camaro will return in a few years, just not as an F-body. Look at The Thunderbird, it went away for a little bit, and now it's back. No big deal. Besides, I hope the Camaro returns as soon as possible. Without competition, what motivation does ford have to keep increasing the performance or quality of the Mustang?

bigwhitecobra · 12-04-2001, 08:08 PM

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. Not that the other models were going to magically disappear just that what motivation will Ford have to improve the 'Stang?

1BAD89 · 12-04-2001, 08:09 PM

You will be able to buy 02 F-Bodies for quite a while at least into 2002 and even up to 2003. But they are not just going to dissapear, lol. Your still going to have the competetion. Look at the fox bodies......And I don't think Ford is going to compete directly against the vette, especially the new C6.

Fox Body · 12-04-2001, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fiveohpatrol

no, didn't you hear, GM is going to the house of every Camaro/Firebird buyer, slapping them in the face for being retarted, reimbursing them because they bought a crappy product, and then taking the car back, so actually they will all disappear

well i was actually gonna say the same thing about the others not disappearing, but Fox Body already did and i wanted to say something anyway

Ha ha ha.

As far as the Mustang competing against the Corvette, most of that is wishful thinking and speculation on my part . But hey, Christmas 's a'comin' ... let's pretend.

mustangman65_79 · 12-05-2001, 08:27 AM

Chev's just trying to make the Camro's rare, so that when it does come back out, it will out sell the mustangs,(ya right, that will ever happen).

mustang killer · 12-06-2001, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigwhitecobra
Ok, since the F-body's are going to the great big junkyard in the sky......who's our new competitor?

Wo are we going to line up against at the tracks? And don't say the 'Vette, there just aren't enough of them.

I guess it's up to Honda, Mitsubitchy, and the like. Isn't Dodge going to make us a honorable challenge? What happened to the GTO concept?

I was happy to get rid of the Camaro and Firechicken, but thinking about it, I think it may do more harm than good for us.

Later.

mustang killer · 12-06-2001, 12:41 AM

hey the mazda rx7 will put you out of competition, it is a hell of alot lighter, hell of lot faster, and it doesn't look like a box

rollin68 · 12-06-2001, 01:38 AM

yer gay

84LX89GT · 12-06-2001, 01:52 AM

Wow good point Mustang Killer....it's too bad that Mazda hasn't made an RX7 for awhile now.....AND they're slower. And of course i bet you knew that Mazda is OWNED by ford motor company and in fact alot of mazda products (such as the tribute, B series trucks, among other things) are rebadged fords. Of course, us domestic (or Dumb-estic as ricers call us) owners are "StUpId yO, ImPoRtZZZZ RuLe, yO!!!!"
Go put some more stickers on your 17 second civic,

Mercury · 12-06-2001, 03:39 AM

One of the Mustangs competitors may come from Ford themselves. Ford Motor Company is talking seriuosly about making the 2004 COugar a Mustang based car.

The dodge Challenger is supposed to be a 4 door pony car. I dont know how its going to compete with the stang sales wise.

Lack of competition doesnt neccassarily mean that the Mustang will become wimpy. Has the Corvette became "Wimpy". Even before the Viper came along, the Corvette never became "Wimpy".

Well it did in the mid to late 70s, but then so was every other car back then.

mustangman65_79 · 12-06-2001, 05:51 AM

The reason why I said the t-birds could be a compition is that in 2004, Ford is thinking of making a smaller Mustang, to house the 3.4 v8. Now, are they going to do it, who know's

HiFlow5 0 · 12-06-2001, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mustangman65_79
Ford is thinking of making a smaller Mustang, to house the 3.4 v8.

3.4 V8?????

fiveohpatrol · 12-06-2001, 11:22 AM

mustang killer, we don't need your kind around here

go tell your stories about how your beloved RX7 is so fast to your rice buddies.

so you even have a car or are you just talking $hit for no reason?

oh yah, i don't care how fast a RX7 is- i'll race any of them, and yes chances are i will lose if the owner did much to it besides stickers and a fcking fart pipe- but the funny thing will be after he beats me and has to rebuild that $hitbox of a motor.

a good friend of mine (another stang guy) works at a pontiac service dept and everytime i go in there to talk to him theres always a RX7 or two getting a whole new motor after like 15,000 miles cause its such a piece of crap and loses it's compression

i can sense a flame war getting ready to start, so if you talk your $hit then you damn well better be ready to back it up you little dick

12-04-2001, 08:22 AM	#1
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Ford vs............Honda?? Ok, since the F-body's are going to the great big junkyard in the sky......who's our new competitor? Wo are we going to line up against at the tracks? And don't say the 'Vette, there just aren't enough of them. I guess it's up to Honda, Mitsubitchy, and the like. Isn't Dodge going to make us a honorable challenge? What happened to the GTO concept? I was happy to get rid of the Camaro and Firechicken, but thinking about it, I think it may do more harm than good for us. Later.

12-04-2001, 09:18 AM	#2
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	Your right man. Actually dodge is supposed to make an honorable challenger, The 2003 Challenger. All we know so far is it will be sleek, low, v8 rear drive, sedan. There aren't any performance numbers yet. Check out Motor Trend. Thats where I seen the latest news. Brad __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

12-04-2001, 09:21 AM	#3
mustangman65_79 My poor 79 RIP Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suisun City, Posts: 2,320	I think with the new t-birds out, it will be ford vs ford. Or with ppl like me New vs Old Ford __________________ '84 mustang GT turbo '85 LTD '89 Camaro Irocz z28 '94 Lightning '96 Trans am

12-04-2001, 11:11 AM	#5
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	I have never been an avid Chevrolet follower unless were talking 69 Camaro. How ever I have tried to follow what Dodge was doing new and I must say I would really like to see a new 2003 Challener with a Hemi 360. Hell add a roots type blower on it and you got yourself a car then. I would also shiate my pants when Ford actullay decides to do a 5.4 in a stang. Hey add the roots blower of the Lightning, and where talking serious fun. Brad __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

12-04-2001, 06:50 PM	#6
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	Whoooa there Nelly. As soon as GM stops production on the Fart-bodies (j/k), all of them ain't ganna just disappear. You still gonna have to worry about the '98-'03 (end date?). They'll soon die out too, in what, about 5, 10 years? Actually, I think Ford is gonna start going for the Corvettes. Yes, the C5, C6, etc, will be our new competitor. And maybe the WRX's. Hopefully they'll bring the Skyline GT-R to America so I can buy one . (<<----what are you talking about???) listen to me yapping like I'm some automotive authority __________________ 351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang Ghia notchback '79 Video @ Idle Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl 'glass hood, C4 w/ Transgo shift kit, Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake; Fluidyne Al radiator, Flexalite 175 electric fan, 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, FRPP Al driveshaft; S&W 6-point cage; 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s; Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 275/50/15 Nitto NT 555R Drag Radials; 14 x 4” K&N X-stream air filter. '92 GT (5-speed) Small In Car Video Stock 5.0L, 2-chamber Flowmasters, MAC CAI, Tri-Ax, Al pedals... "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

12-04-2001, 10:25 AM	#4
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Those new Thunderchickens are extremely wimpy. They've reverted back to the orignal concept, a luxo barge that looks good. Which is one thing that cars does real good. Why doesn't Dodge bring back the 440? Even the 340 would be a good start. Something. While I'm on the subject, Ford needs to put the 5.4 in the Mustang before I have a conniption(sp?). Stop jerkin' us around and just do it!! And someone needs to offer a Vortech instead of a Roots blower from the dealer. Ok, I'm done ranting for now. But...I'll be back.(In my very best Arnold voice)

12-04-2001, 07:14 PM	#8
TJR Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bowling Green, OH Posts: 270	I'm pretty sure that the Camaro will return in a few years, just not as an F-body. Look at The Thunderbird, it went away for a little bit, and now it's back. No big deal. Besides, I hope the Camaro returns as soon as possible. Without competition, what motivation does ford have to keep increasing the performance or quality of the Mustang? __________________ 1989 lx notch 89,000 miles 5-speed, bolt-ons, 3.73, TFS TWs, TFS Track Heat, TFS Stage 1 cam

12-04-2001, 08:08 PM	#9
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. Not that the other models were going to magically disappear just that what motivation will Ford have to improve the 'Stang? __________________ 2003 GT White---STOLEN May you burn in hell whoever took it. Dumbazz didn't even get the good engine that was in the garage.

12-04-2001, 08:09 PM	#10
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	You will be able to buy 02 F-Bodies for quite a while at least into 2002 and even up to 2003. But they are not just going to dissapear, lol. Your still going to have the competetion. Look at the fox bodies......And I don't think Ford is going to compete directly against the vette, especially the new C6.

12-05-2001, 08:27 AM	#12
mustangman65_79 My poor 79 RIP Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suisun City, Posts: 2,320	Chev's just trying to make the Camro's rare, so that when it does come back out, it will out sell the mustangs,(ya right, that will ever happen). __________________ '84 mustang GT turbo '85 LTD '89 Camaro Irocz z28 '94 Lightning '96 Trans am

12-06-2001, 12:41 AM	#14
mustang killer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: vancouver Posts: 7	the rx7 will drop all of you mustang suckers hey the mazda rx7 will put you out of competition, it is a hell of alot lighter, hell of lot faster, and it doesn't look like a box

12-06-2001, 01:38 AM	#15
rollin68 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: SD/Murrieta Posts: 20	yer gay __________________ 68 fastback

12-06-2001, 01:52 AM	#16
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	Wow good point Mustang Killer....it's too bad that Mazda hasn't made an RX7 for awhile now.....AND they're slower. And of course i bet you knew that Mazda is OWNED by ford motor company and in fact alot of mazda products (such as the tribute, B series trucks, among other things) are rebadged fords. Of course, us domestic (or Dumb-estic as ricers call us) owners are "StUpId yO, ImPoRtZZZZ RuLe, yO!!!!" Go put some more stickers on your 17 second civic, __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

12-06-2001, 03:39 AM	#17
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	One of the Mustangs competitors may come from Ford themselves. Ford Motor Company is talking seriuosly about making the 2004 COugar a Mustang based car. The dodge Challenger is supposed to be a 4 door pony car. I dont know how its going to compete with the stang sales wise. Lack of competition doesnt neccassarily mean that the Mustang will become wimpy. Has the Corvette became "Wimpy". Even before the Viper came along, the Corvette never became "Wimpy". Well it did in the mid to late 70s, but then so was every other car back then. __________________ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. Red Baron, 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. Stage 2 CNC heads with Large Valves, Comp Cams (270-274 dur .550 lift), Forged Crank, DRP pistons, Manly H-beams, Pro M 87 mm Mass Air, 24lb Inj, 75mm TB, Plenum Spacer ,Long Tube Headers, Homemade H-pipe, 2 chamber Flows, 4:10's, Steeda Tri-Ax, LKW 70/30's, Eibach Drag Springs, Steeda SubFrames, Battle Boxes, Rear Girdle, Adj uppers, Alunimum Drshft, Southside Lift Bars. Project Cars, 64 1/2 6cyl coupe, 1930 Model A Nostalgia Rod.

12-06-2001, 05:51 AM	#18
mustangman65_79 My poor 79 RIP Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suisun City, Posts: 2,320	The reason why I said the t-birds could be a compition is that in 2004, Ford is thinking of making a smaller Mustang, to house the 3.4 v8. Now, are they going to do it, who know's __________________ '84 mustang GT turbo '85 LTD '89 Camaro Irocz z28 '94 Lightning '96 Trans am

12-06-2001, 11:22 AM	#20
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	mustang killer, we don't need your kind around here go tell your stories about how your beloved RX7 is so fast to your rice buddies. so you even have a car or are you just talking $hit for no reason? oh yah, i don't care how fast a RX7 is- i'll race any of them, and yes chances are i will lose if the owner did much to it besides stickers and a fcking fart pipe- but the funny thing will be after he beats me and has to rebuild that $hitbox of a motor. a good friend of mine (another stang guy) works at a pontiac service dept and everytime i go in there to talk to him theres always a RX7 or two getting a whole new motor after like 15,000 miles cause its such a piece of crap and loses it's compression i can sense a flame war getting ready to start, so if you talk your $hit then you damn well better be ready to back it up you little dick __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

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