95 GT vs. LT1 Z28: surprising results?

95mustanggt · 01-28-2002, 02:17 PM

Well I found out how I do next to an LT1

A green Camero with black racing stripes (with atleast exhaust done) came up beside me and gunned it. By the time that I down shifted my front bumper was just behind his rear bumper.

I nailed it and I slowly started to bring him in.

Then he shot forward like I was standing still! I noticed a bunch of white smoke coming from his tail pipes. He sprayed me! So much for my wanted "victory" today

I could take this guy barring the his use of N20. Which is what I was curious to know.

Dark_5.0 · 01-28-2002, 03:09 PM

Sure you could take him if he didnt spray.

LT1's are not much comp for a modded stang.

LS1's are a whole nother beast entirely

95mustanggt · 01-28-2002, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
...LS1's are a whole nother beast entirely

Yup, and that's my excuse for the heads/intake/cam setup when I get some more cash.

Dark_5.0 · 01-28-2002, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 95mustanggt

Yup, and that's my excuse for the heads/intake/cam setup when I get some more cash.

Thats my excuse for slicks, Im gonna surprise some people this year

StoplightWarrior · 01-28-2002, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
Sure you could take him if he didnt spray.

LT1's are not much comp for a modded stang.

Are you kidding?

LT1's are high 13, low 14 sec car's stock. A 94-98 GT is high 14' low 15 stock. A GT's gotta make up nearly a second just to run with one. If by modded you mean full exhaust, gears, intake, then yeah, a GT can run with one, but for a GT with flows, a K&N and a shifter (most "modded" GT's out there

) an LT1 spells trouble.

95mustanggt · 01-29-2002, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by StoplightWarrior

Are you kidding?

LT1's are high 13, low 14 sec car's stock. A 94-98 GT is high 14' low 15 stock. A GT's gotta make up nearly a second just to run with one. If by modded you mean full exhaust, gears, intake, then yeah, a GT can run with one, but for a GT with flows, a K&N and a shifter (most "modded" GT's out there ) an LT1 spells trouble.

Well I wouldn't say that my car is even moderately modded, but I had this guy until his spray. And I don't think I'm running high 13's, low 14's maybe. Guess there is still the driver aspect and I don't know if he had an auto or manual tranny.

I wouldn't say I have to back down when I see one or I'll lose.

Unit 5302 · 01-29-2002, 02:32 PM

Let's see, high 14's to low/mid 14's. Or more accurately, stock LT-1 vs SN95 with K&N, exhuast, and an H-pipe.

I have never encountered one of these "fast" LT-1's. My 87GT has beaten them at highway speeds, off the line, everywhere. I routinely pull them in 3rd gear with my 2.73's.

Dark_5.0 · 01-29-2002, 05:39 PM

LT1's run mid to high 14's and even 15's where I live and...and I think that a modded stang would dust some LS1 arse considering most run a mid 14 or better stock.

I smoked some LT1's last year running a 14.79 @3000 feet I wasnt impresed.

Were you kidding

GONZO99TA · 01-30-2002, 06:57 PM

i've seen verrrrry few stock lt1's dip into the 13s, but freaks come in every brand
most i've seen run were low to mid 14's
very comparable to a slightly modded pre99 stang.

Turbo99GT · 01-30-2002, 09:01 PM

I can't speak for all cars, but I happened to be at the track this weekend and made 6 passes with friends of mine. One of them has a 95 Z28 M6, blown foxbody & 00 Camaro SS auto. My friend with the 95 Z ran a best of 13.80 @ 102.XXX on street tires and he isn't the best driver. I believe the car has a cam & a new rear with axles. What suprised me was my friend with the 00 SS running 13.10-13.20s @ 104-105 mph all day on street tires bone stock with the auto. When he gets a converter & D/Rs, that car will be running easy 12.50s. Definitely seat time at the track is important for the best ETs and mph. I went quicker and faster on every pass. I would say and LT1 is quite capable of low 14s with the right driver and conditions. I would definitely be careful of LS1s, especially autos with converters, unless you are running low 12s/high 11s.

Coupe5oh · 01-30-2002, 10:27 PM

yea turbo99, if you read my "this is ridiculous" post, i know about those a4 ls1's ss or formula, my friend should see a 12.50 with a converter and a sticky tire.

lt1's arent nothing special, my friend has a 97 t/a with an auto and he has cutouts and 3 in exhaust, he sees 14.0's @ 100, and has run 13.9 once, on my street tires i beat him, but it was close race on the top, but he couldnt pull.

turbo99, i agree also, to be an ls1 punisher, you need a low 12 sec stang, my buddies trick flow'd 347 hasnt been touched on the track yet bye an ls1, he goes 12.2's@ 114 expecting 11.70 when we get his suspension fixed.

StreetStang37 · 02-01-2002, 05:26 AM

My friend has a 95 Z28 spd with a cutout and cold air intake and went 13.99 @ 100.4 then 14.02 @ 101.1. My other friend with a 93 Z28 A4 goes 13.9X @ 100.7 consistantly and has seen a couple of 13.8's. All he has is a cut out, 3.42 gears and an ignition system. My brothers girlfriend went 14.6 @ 99 in her 96 Z28 A4 w/T-Tops completely bone stock with traction control on with a 2.48 60'. My best is 14.45 @ 99.4 and I have just about all the minor bolt ons (no heads, intake, cam, ignition). From a roll, its really just a matter of who punches it first and who is in a better RPM but from a stop they get me because I been having problems launching the car with out spinning or completely babying it out of the hole. I cant floor it before 3750 in first or I will just light them up. I think I can trap a little better when I finally get the launch down but those LT1s are no slouches whatsoever.

Unit 5302 · 02-01-2002, 08:45 PM

So what you're basically saying is what everybody's been saying all along. Off the floor the LT-1 is a low/mid 14 second car. A straight up match with a well driven SD Mustang 5.0. I don't consider that much to brag about. A SN95 with gears and just a bolt on or 2 would have no problems. Interestingly enough, my near bone stock Fox with the z spec and 2.73's in poor form trapped as high as any of those cars (according to the G Tech 103.8mph), so about 100-101.

FivepointOH · 02-01-2002, 09:12 PM

I had a friend with a 96z m6 with 4:10's an cutout... I ran him on my nittos and him on street tires and pulled him out of the hole so bad he couldn't catch up by the 1/4... from a high roll he would pull on me but I do have an auto with 4:10's.... needless to say I wasn't too impressed, probably a high 13, low 14 car.

fastang · 02-01-2002, 10:16 PM

My 95 hit 14.6 @ 96 mph bone stock. My friends auto 94 LT1 hit 14.0 @ 98 or 99 mph bone stock as well. I'd say your average mass air stang has about a half second to improve to catch an LT1 in good condition. But then those things fall apart like auto-lepracy anway

01-28-2002, 02:17 PM	#1
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	95 GT vs. LT1 Z28: surprising results? Well I found out how I do next to an LT1 A green Camero with black racing stripes (with atleast exhaust done) came up beside me and gunned it. By the time that I down shifted my front bumper was just behind his rear bumper. I nailed it and I slowly started to bring him in. Then he shot forward like I was standing still! I noticed a bunch of white smoke coming from his tail pipes. He sprayed me! So much for my wanted "victory" today I could take this guy barring the his use of N20. Which is what I was curious to know. __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

01-28-2002, 03:09 PM	#2
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Sure you could take him if he didnt spray. LT1's are not much comp for a modded stang. LS1's are a whole nother beast entirely __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-29-2002, 05:39 PM	#8
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	LT1's run mid to high 14's and even 15's where I live and...and I think that a modded stang would dust some LS1 arse considering most run a mid 14 or better stock. I smoked some LT1's last year running a 14.79 @3000 feet I wasnt impresed. Were you kidding __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-30-2002, 06:57 PM	#9
GONZO99TA Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Great Falls, MT Posts: 144	i've seen verrrrry few stock lt1's dip into the 13s, but freaks come in every brand most i've seen run were low to mid 14's very comparable to a slightly modded pre99 stang. __________________ 99 30th annv. Trans am 79 Trans am black se

01-30-2002, 09:01 PM	#10
Turbo99GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 71	I can't speak for all cars, but I happened to be at the track this weekend and made 6 passes with friends of mine. One of them has a 95 Z28 M6, blown foxbody & 00 Camaro SS auto. My friend with the 95 Z ran a best of 13.80 @ 102.XXX on street tires and he isn't the best driver. I believe the car has a cam & a new rear with axles. What suprised me was my friend with the 00 SS running 13.10-13.20s @ 104-105 mph all day on street tires bone stock with the auto. When he gets a converter & D/Rs, that car will be running easy 12.50s. Definitely seat time at the track is important for the best ETs and mph. I went quicker and faster on every pass. I would say and LT1 is quite capable of low 14s with the right driver and conditions. I would definitely be careful of LS1s, especially autos with converters, unless you are running low 12s/high 11s. __________________ 99 Silver GT Auto DTA Built Engine w/P&P heads, TDC Turbo (T-76), Built 4R70W, PI Multi-Disc 3200 T/C, Eaton 31 Spline Carrier, Strange 31 Spline Axles, Aeromotive 1000 HP fuel system, 66lb injectors, MSD DIS4, Accel DFI Gen VII & Mac 3" cat-back. Built by Jade Performance Best on Nitto D/Rs 11.698 @ 120.898 @ 12 psi (built block) Best on Slicks 10.922 @ 122.95 (stock longblock)

01-29-2002, 02:32 PM	#7
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Let's see, high 14's to low/mid 14's. Or more accurately, stock LT-1 vs SN95 with K&N, exhuast, and an H-pipe. I have never encountered one of these "fast" LT-1's. My 87GT has beaten them at highway speeds, off the line, everywhere. I routinely pull them in 3rd gear with my 2.73's.

01-30-2002, 10:27 PM	#11
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	yea turbo99, if you read my "this is ridiculous" post, i know about those a4 ls1's ss or formula, my friend should see a 12.50 with a converter and a sticky tire. lt1's arent nothing special, my friend has a 97 t/a with an auto and he has cutouts and 3 in exhaust, he sees 14.0's @ 100, and has run 13.9 once, on my street tires i beat him, but it was close race on the top, but he couldnt pull. turbo99, i agree also, to be an ls1 punisher, you need a low 12 sec stang, my buddies trick flow'd 347 hasnt been touched on the track yet bye an ls1, he goes 12.2's@ 114 expecting 11.70 when we get his suspension fixed. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

02-01-2002, 05:26 AM	#12
StreetStang37 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: San Jose, California USA Posts: 275	My friend has a 95 Z28 spd with a cutout and cold air intake and went 13.99 @ 100.4 then 14.02 @ 101.1. My other friend with a 93 Z28 A4 goes 13.9X @ 100.7 consistantly and has seen a couple of 13.8's. All he has is a cut out, 3.42 gears and an ignition system. My brothers girlfriend went 14.6 @ 99 in her 96 Z28 A4 w/T-Tops completely bone stock with traction control on with a 2.48 60'. My best is 14.45 @ 99.4 and I have just about all the minor bolt ons (no heads, intake, cam, ignition). From a roll, its really just a matter of who punches it first and who is in a better RPM but from a stop they get me because I been having problems launching the car with out spinning or completely babying it out of the hole. I cant floor it before 3750 in first or I will just light them up. I think I can trap a little better when I finally get the launch down but those LT1s are no slouches whatsoever. __________________ 1993 Grabber Blue Mustang GT Trick Flow Heads, Street Heat intake, 3/8in spacer, E303, TFS 1.7rr & 6.75 pushrods, Holley 190lph fuel pump, 24# injectors & sample tube, SVO timing chain, Aeromotive AFPR, 180* t-stat, 2 5/8 Auto Meter mech fuel pressure gauge, K&N, March Ram Air & Pullies, 73mm C&L MAF, Edelbrock 65mm TB & EGR, 1 5/8in Equal Length Super Competition Hooker Headers, 2 1/2in H-Pipe w/hi-flow cats & Flowmaster 2 1/2in Cat-Back Exhaust, FlowTech Cut-Outs, Nitto DR's, 3.73 gears, FMS Aluminum DriveShaft, Pro 5.0 Shifter, Pro-Shift Lite, 8.5mm MSD Super Cunductor Plug Wires, PowerSlot rotors, PowerMaster 140amp Alt., LX lights, Cobra R hood w/SVO scoop, Saleen spoiler, Cobra Bumper, 3in chrome tips.

02-01-2002, 08:45 PM	#13
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	So what you're basically saying is what everybody's been saying all along. Off the floor the LT-1 is a low/mid 14 second car. A straight up match with a well driven SD Mustang 5.0. I don't consider that much to brag about. A SN95 with gears and just a bolt on or 2 would have no problems. Interestingly enough, my near bone stock Fox with the z spec and 2.73's in poor form trapped as high as any of those cars (according to the G Tech 103.8mph), so about 100-101.

02-01-2002, 09:12 PM	#14
FivepointOH Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Sugar Land, Tx USA Posts: 478	I had a friend with a 96z m6 with 4:10's an cutout... I ran him on my nittos and him on street tires and pulled him out of the hole so bad he couldn't catch up by the 1/4... from a high roll he would pull on me but I do have an auto with 4:10's.... needless to say I wasn't too impressed, probably a high 13, low 14 car. __________________ 92 AOD GT, K&N, ram air, pulleys, 2 ch. flowmasters, 4:10's, shift kit, 1 5/8 mac longtubes and offroad hpipe 14.249 @ 97.34 Lakewood 90/10's and 50/50's

02-01-2002, 10:16 PM	#15
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	My 95 hit 14.6 @ 96 mph bone stock. My friends auto 94 LT1 hit 14.0 @ 98 or 99 mph bone stock as well. I'd say your average mass air stang has about a half second to improve to catch an LT1 in good condition. But then those things fall apart like auto-lepracy anway __________________ 98 GT manual trans, Magna Flow exh. old car: 95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

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