Long tube installation?

Agent_4573 · 05-06-2002, 10:48 PM

I was thinking of getting a set of long tube headers to replace the stock ones i have, but I'm not to technically adapt yet. What kind of mods would i have to make to my existing h-pipe bolted up to stock headers for the long tubes to fit? And is it really worth the effort? I'm planning on putting on the mods listed below and when im done with them twisted wedge heads and a new cam...

Coupe5oh · 05-06-2002, 11:11 PM

do you have a 5spd? i hear its a pain in the arsze, but it's worth it, you will have to buy a matching h-pipe, yours could be modified im sure, but it would cost more than just buying another that matches, unless you cut and weld you flanges yourself, and then you better have an accurate measurement, good luck, and let us know, also i hear the steering shaft has to come off to get the header on.

Agent_4573 · 05-07-2002, 12:37 AM

dam... maybe ill save that one for later... like after i get aftermarket heads. and after the exhaust i just bought i think ill be doing all my own cutting and welding... i don't wanna end up with another piece of crap like i got from summit... first time i got it, it didn't have the 02 holes drilled in, when i got it back, it was 3 inches short on each side... now itrattles and the headers tap when im at WOT... im changing back to my h-pipe when my new t-5 gets here though...

Coupe5oh · 05-07-2002, 11:43 AM

So your getting a new t-5? i installed my t-5 myself on a gravel driveway, it was a pita, just one bolt that wouldnt come out, and if you got a way to jack it up, or someone else helping you its pretty simple.

Agent_4573 · 05-07-2002, 12:27 PM

I'm probably gonna be puttin in the t-5 in my yard... but i'm a youngin so i got my dad to help me out. The only problem is its gonna be done a 2 jack stands and a floor jack... clearance may become and issue... but hey, it should be fun and it gives me an excuse to get the crappy summit exhaust off and put back on the flowmaster h-pipe

Coupe5oh · 05-07-2002, 02:15 PM

oh yea, summitt exhaust didnt look too good to me, im a youngin too, well 23, but i had to wresle that t-5 in, but i got it, and im just a skinny guy 6'3 155, as long as you get the input stabbed in right your good to go, just have to work it in easily.....good luck

302 LX Eric · 05-07-2002, 03:15 PM

As stated, long-tubes will not bolt up to your stock H-pipe.

Also, I would just purchase a shortie off-road H-pipe for the long-tubes, rather than mess around with cutting and welding. Just my advice.

E

BTW - are you related to Unit 5302???

sedanman · 05-07-2002, 04:37 PM

Long tube are not that bad!

you don't have to pull the steering shaft! All I had to do was loosen the motor mounts and tilt the motor (sounds harder than it is) it took me maybe 5hrs (at a slow screw off pace) and that includes pulling the old exhaust.

When you do it do BBK LT's with 1 5/8 collector and order the BBK short H-pipe made for the headers they have the O2 bungs all ready installed.

I think you will like the sound and the power, good luck!

Agent_4573 · 05-07-2002, 07:56 PM

Thanks for all the advice guys, but i think with the two exhausts i have now, buying another one doesn't have room in the check book right now... may after i get the heads ill get some long tubes....

05-06-2002, 10:48 PM	#1
Agent_4573 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 375	Long tube installation? I was thinking of getting a set of long tube headers to replace the stock ones i have, but I'm not to technically adapt yet. What kind of mods would i have to make to my existing h-pipe bolted up to stock headers for the long tubes to fit? And is it really worth the effort? I'm planning on putting on the mods listed below and when im done with them twisted wedge heads and a new cam... __________________ '89 LX 5.0, off-road h pipe, flowmaster muffs, underdrive pulleys, rebuilt WC T-5, King Cobra Clutch, 65mm throttle body, Explorer Upper/GT40 lower, Lakewood Rear Lift Bars. 76mm C&L Mass air w/ inlet pipe, Twisted wedge heads w/ stage 2 port,polish, MAC equal length shorties, Billet AFPR, 255LPH fuel pump, fresh low end w/ 10.5:1 compression. If anyone ever wants to go to Raceway Park in Englishtown New Jersey, give me a shout. RICER HATERS CLUB MEMBER 87! www.ricehatersclub.com

05-06-2002, 11:11 PM	#2
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	do you have a 5spd? i hear its a pain in the arsze, but it's worth it, you will have to buy a matching h-pipe, yours could be modified im sure, but it would cost more than just buying another that matches, unless you cut and weld you flanges yourself, and then you better have an accurate measurement, good luck, and let us know, also i hear the steering shaft has to come off to get the header on. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

05-07-2002, 12:37 AM	#3
Agent_4573 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 375	dam... maybe ill save that one for later... like after i get aftermarket heads. and after the exhaust i just bought i think ill be doing all my own cutting and welding... i don't wanna end up with another piece of crap like i got from summit... first time i got it, it didn't have the 02 holes drilled in, when i got it back, it was 3 inches short on each side... now itrattles and the headers tap when im at WOT... im changing back to my h-pipe when my new t-5 gets here though... __________________ '89 LX 5.0, off-road h pipe, flowmaster muffs, underdrive pulleys, rebuilt WC T-5, King Cobra Clutch, 65mm throttle body, Explorer Upper/GT40 lower, Lakewood Rear Lift Bars. 76mm C&L Mass air w/ inlet pipe, Twisted wedge heads w/ stage 2 port,polish, MAC equal length shorties, Billet AFPR, 255LPH fuel pump, fresh low end w/ 10.5:1 compression. If anyone ever wants to go to Raceway Park in Englishtown New Jersey, give me a shout. RICER HATERS CLUB MEMBER 87! www.ricehatersclub.com

05-07-2002, 11:43 AM	#4
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	So your getting a new t-5? i installed my t-5 myself on a gravel driveway, it was a pita, just one bolt that wouldnt come out, and if you got a way to jack it up, or someone else helping you its pretty simple. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

05-07-2002, 12:27 PM	#5
Agent_4573 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 375	I'm probably gonna be puttin in the t-5 in my yard... but i'm a youngin so i got my dad to help me out. The only problem is its gonna be done a 2 jack stands and a floor jack... clearance may become and issue... but hey, it should be fun and it gives me an excuse to get the crappy summit exhaust off and put back on the flowmaster h-pipe __________________ '89 LX 5.0, off-road h pipe, flowmaster muffs, underdrive pulleys, rebuilt WC T-5, King Cobra Clutch, 65mm throttle body, Explorer Upper/GT40 lower, Lakewood Rear Lift Bars. 76mm C&L Mass air w/ inlet pipe, Twisted wedge heads w/ stage 2 port,polish, MAC equal length shorties, Billet AFPR, 255LPH fuel pump, fresh low end w/ 10.5:1 compression. If anyone ever wants to go to Raceway Park in Englishtown New Jersey, give me a shout. RICER HATERS CLUB MEMBER 87! www.ricehatersclub.com

05-07-2002, 02:15 PM	#6
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	oh yea, summitt exhaust didnt look too good to me, im a youngin too, well 23, but i had to wresle that t-5 in, but i got it, and im just a skinny guy 6'3 155, as long as you get the input stabbed in right your good to go, just have to work it in easily.....good luck __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

05-07-2002, 03:15 PM	#7
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	As stated, long-tubes will not bolt up to your stock H-pipe. Also, I would just purchase a shortie off-road H-pipe for the long-tubes, rather than mess around with cutting and welding. Just my advice. E BTW - are you related to Unit 5302??? __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

05-07-2002, 04:37 PM	#8
sedanman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 963	Long tube are not that bad! you don't have to pull the steering shaft! All I had to do was loosen the motor mounts and tilt the motor (sounds harder than it is) it took me maybe 5hrs (at a slow screw off pace) and that includes pulling the old exhaust. When you do it do BBK LT's with 1 5/8 collector and order the BBK short H-pipe made for the headers they have the O2 bungs all ready installed. I think you will like the sound and the power, good luck! __________________ 04 Screamin Yellow Cobra KB 2.4 (585/556 pump 626/666 race) 00R brakes, DFX clutch, Level 5's, return fuel system, Lts with 3" exhuast, FR500 wheels and all the other fun stuff. GONE 1991 Lx sedan 5.0, 5spd (Liberty proshifted TKO) S-trim, Ported TF heads everything parted out.

05-07-2002, 07:56 PM	#9
Agent_4573 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 375	Thanks for all the advice guys, but i think with the two exhausts i have now, buying another one doesn't have room in the check book right now... may after i get the heads ill get some long tubes.... __________________ '89 LX 5.0, off-road h pipe, flowmaster muffs, underdrive pulleys, rebuilt WC T-5, King Cobra Clutch, 65mm throttle body, Explorer Upper/GT40 lower, Lakewood Rear Lift Bars. 76mm C&L Mass air w/ inlet pipe, Twisted wedge heads w/ stage 2 port,polish, MAC equal length shorties, Billet AFPR, 255LPH fuel pump, fresh low end w/ 10.5:1 compression. If anyone ever wants to go to Raceway Park in Englishtown New Jersey, give me a shout. RICER HATERS CLUB MEMBER 87! www.ricehatersclub.com

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