Questions question questions!!!!!!!

Oldschoolpony · 09-03-2002, 11:25 PM

Here is my scenario. Im looking at purchasing another box truck. from a 95 to a 98. But I have 5 different motor choices to choose from. It will be a daily driver and total average weigth will be around 11,500(e350 cube) The motor choices are. 351w, 5.4(330) , Power stroke Deisel ,460 roller motor. or a 6.8 v-10 gas. Which is the more reliable? I currently have a 460 roller in a 94 with 207,000 miles and it runs like new, and Im not bs'ing this 460 runns like a charm.

Jeff Chambers · 09-04-2002, 06:40 AM

Get 'Stroked! The motor is just getting broken in by 100,000 miles and the newer Power Strokes boast a whopping 525 ft-lbs of stump pulling torque. Check out some of the Ford Truck sites for input from owners.

I went from an E-150 conversion with the 351W to a F-250 Power Stroke and there's absolutely no comparison. The F-250 will pull our car/trailer up the mountains at 75mph without kicking out of O/D. The E-150 got about 11mpg towing and the F-250 gets about 17mpg towing. No comparison between the two IMHO.

95mustanggt · 09-04-2002, 08:51 AM

Go diesel.

There is a reason Rigs and heavy equipment use diesel. It's cheaper, it has more torque, better fuel economy, and lasts forever!

302 LX Eric · 09-04-2002, 09:02 AM

Another vote for the Powerstroke. I did some research on Ford Super Duty's on www.forddiesel.com and found that for towing loads, etc., you can't beat the reliability, 'gas' mileage, and of course the torque output.

BTW, I think forddiesel has changed their name, but I'm not sure what it is. Sorry.

E

gofastmercury · 09-04-2002, 01:03 PM

Didn't ford buy cummins? Just something I heard around here.

Oldschoolpony · 09-04-2002, 01:10 PM

my only concern with the power stroke Is the expense in even the minor repair. I priced a water pump. OUCH 5 bills for the part????????

95mustanggt · 09-04-2002, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Oldschoolpony
my only concern with the power stroke Is the expense in even the minor repair. I priced a water pump. OUCH 5 bills for the part????????

Pay now or pay later. At the end of the day the diesel will cost less to own and operate.

bigblockcoupe · 09-04-2002, 05:29 PM

go with the powerstroke diesel they are awesome for towing/hauling and are very reliable.

srv1 · 09-04-2002, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by 95mustanggt
Pay now or pay later. At the end of the day the diesel will cost less to own and operate.

you sure? how about 15 quarts of oil at $2.50 a quart(roughly) and an oil filter about $12 for every 6000 miles or if you run synthetic, every 10,000 miles at $20 a gallon(roughly)about $5 a quart times 15. Diesels do not cost less to operate overall. yes they do get better fuel economy, but maintence is very expensive. filters in general on diesel trucks are generally expensive as well.

when it all comes down, it will be the diesel that will last you 250,000 miles without breaking a sweat.

mustangII460 · 09-04-2002, 10:50 PM

I just like the smell of diesel on cold mornings, its a military thing.

Oldschoolpony · 09-05-2002, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by srv1

when it all comes down, it will be the diesel that will last you 250,000 miles without breaking a sweat.

Well, It seems, All the dealers want upwards of 4k more. for the deisel. Big factor.

srv1, I have a 94 e350, with a 460 roller. It runs now as strong and quiet( burns now oil what so ever )as the day it was new and it has 210,000 miles of HARD driving on it. I have had only 1 major repair, the E4OD needed a rebuild at 175,000 and some much needed updates to its internal.

Well. I go on my road trip tommorrow. NC,TN, GA and possibly Ohio. It seems Florida only has damaged or ragged trucks.

USMC302 · 09-06-2002, 12:52 PM

Lots of motor homes and RV's are equiped with 460's, the are meant for life and fuel longitivity, The 460 will put down a mass number of torque also. I have one sitting in the garage for a future project for the coupe. My vote is for the 460.

rwhite65 · 03-15-2006, 02:37 AM

I also have a 460 sitting in the shed to go in my 79 F-250 when the old motor finally gives out, but......

It would get a powerstroke in a heart beat, if it were not such a task to swap in. I know they are a lot more expensive to buy up front. Yes, the oil changes CAN be more expensive.

I am telling you right now, they are by far the best choice. My fathers 97 f-250 has the 7.3 powerstroke, and the dang thing is an animal, and we have only done a little work to the exhaust and a programmer. With an AOD and a 3.55 gear, it routinely gets 20-21 miles to the gallon....and at worst got 16 when we loaded it down with everything we had and drove at 75-80 mph.

There is no comparing the 460 to the powerstroke when it comes to fuel economy, let alone brute power.
Ryan

09-03-2002, 11:25 PM	#1
Oldschoolpony Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Gainsville,Fl Posts: 229	Questions question questions!!!!!!! Here is my scenario. Im looking at purchasing another box truck. from a 95 to a 98. But I have 5 different motor choices to choose from. It will be a daily driver and total average weigth will be around 11,500(e350 cube) The motor choices are. 351w, 5.4(330) , Power stroke Deisel ,460 roller motor. or a 6.8 v-10 gas. Which is the more reliable? I currently have a 460 roller in a 94 with 207,000 miles and it runs like new, and Im not bs'ing this 460 runns like a charm. __________________ http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?1546

09-04-2002, 06:40 AM	#2
Jeff Chambers Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milan, OH Posts: 2,699	Get 'Stroked! The motor is just getting broken in by 100,000 miles and the newer Power Strokes boast a whopping 525 ft-lbs of stump pulling torque. Check out some of the Ford Truck sites for input from owners. I went from an E-150 conversion with the 351W to a F-250 Power Stroke and there's absolutely no comparison. The F-250 will pull our car/trailer up the mountains at 75mph without kicking out of O/D. The E-150 got about 11mpg towing and the F-250 gets about 17mpg towing. No comparison between the two IMHO. __________________ Jeff Chambers 1990 Mustang GT 10.032 Seconds / 137.5 MPH 14-time Street Warrior World Record Setter CRT Performance 2001 Tropic Green Mustang GT - 12.181 / 113.2 MPH 2002 Ford F-250 Crew Cab 7.3l Power Stroke - 17.41@77.2 "There's nothing boring about a small block automatic shifting gears at 9400 rpm!"

09-04-2002, 08:51 AM	#3
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Go diesel. There is a reason Rigs and heavy equipment use diesel. It's cheaper, it has more torque, better fuel economy, and lasts forever! __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

09-04-2002, 09:02 AM	#4
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	Another vote for the Powerstroke. I did some research on Ford Super Duty's on www.forddiesel.com and found that for towing loads, etc., you can't beat the reliability, 'gas' mileage, and of course the torque output. BTW, I think forddiesel has changed their name, but I'm not sure what it is. Sorry. E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

09-04-2002, 01:03 PM	#5
gofastmercury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 366	rumor Didn't ford buy cummins? Just something I heard around here. __________________ 93LXcopcarSOLD14.3@96 @ 4500ft 2.02 60ft on street tires. my 67 ranchero NOT A 390 ANY MORE! 460! 3.70's cast manifolds, comp cams 262H, performer, 750DP 100K out of 79 F250 NEW(oct20/02)14.58@95mph 2.3 60 ft corrects to:13.86@100 66 merc comet351w, isky roller 600 lift 268/260@.050, vic jr. 700DP, 5000stall, 4.56's c-4, 3400lbs with driver 12.3@110 @ 4000ft 1.69 60 ft corrects to:11.69@115

09-04-2002, 01:10 PM	#6
Oldschoolpony Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Gainsville,Fl Posts: 229	my only concern with the power stroke Is the expense in even the minor repair. I priced a water pump. OUCH 5 bills for the part???????? __________________ http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?1546

09-04-2002, 05:29 PM	#8
bigblockcoupe Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: broken arrow Posts: 212	go with the powerstroke diesel they are awesome for towing/hauling and are very reliable. __________________ Rice Haters Club member #68 '93 Cobra 10.20@135 '89 Gt Coupe 12.20@115

09-04-2002, 10:50 PM	#10
mustangII460 Factoy Five Roadster Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sevier Co,Tennessee Posts: 1,681	I just like the smell of diesel on cold mornings, its a military thing.

09-06-2002, 12:52 PM	#12
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	Lots of motor homes and RV's are equiped with 460's, the are meant for life and fuel longitivity, The 460 will put down a mass number of torque also. I have one sitting in the garage for a future project for the coupe. My vote is for the 460. __________________

03-15-2006, 02:37 AM	#13
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	Re: Questions question questions!!!!!!! I also have a 460 sitting in the shed to go in my 79 F-250 when the old motor finally gives out, but...... It would get a powerstroke in a heart beat, if it were not such a task to swap in. I know they are a lot more expensive to buy up front. Yes, the oil changes CAN be more expensive. I am telling you right now, they are by far the best choice. My fathers 97 f-250 has the 7.3 powerstroke, and the dang thing is an animal, and we have only done a little work to the exhaust and a programmer. With an AOD and a 3.55 gear, it routinely gets 20-21 miles to the gallon....and at worst got 16 when we loaded it down with everything we had and drove at 75-80 mph. There is no comparing the 460 to the powerstroke when it comes to fuel economy, let alone brute power. Ryan __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored

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