How to dump slush box??

DevilsSon · 04-11-2002, 12:18 PM

I have a 1998 GT auto, I NEED to get into driving a stick. I only got the car because it was cheap and NOT abused. How can I go from auto to stick cheap but the right way??

Dark_5.0 · 04-11-2002, 01:04 PM

There isnt a cheap way you are going to spend $1200.00 at the minimum for the conversion, If I were you I would get a big tranny cooler a shift kit and a stall converter and leave it auto.

Later,

DevilsSon · 04-11-2002, 01:14 PM

Thanks man,
Ive been asking around the office and the motorheads here have the same consensus. What do you recommend in names and prices for the parts youve mentioned? I've heard the name TransGo is the best name in shift kits.

geno5.0 · 04-11-2002, 02:02 PM

If you have a couple hundred $ 350 $450 call Lentech they will hook you up.!

DevilsSon · 04-11-2002, 02:20 PM

Thanks to Dark_5.0 and geno5.0 for their help.
If we were meant to fly we'd have wings, Mustangs GT's are the next best thing!!!!

Dark_5.0 · 04-11-2002, 03:27 PM

Transgo is widely accepted as a good shift kit.

USMC302 · 04-12-2002, 06:05 AM

ON my 88GT it was an auto when we bought it and we did the famous swap. All used parts except clutch quadrant and cable. I did it myself and it wasn't that bad. SOoooooo, anyway, if your aod is having probs I still have the AOD out of the GT sitting in my garage, nothing wrong with it at all. drove it home when I bought it then pulled motor and tranny and all interior and started from scratch. Anyway I can sell it to you if you need it. Good luck either way.

DevilsSon · 04-12-2002, 08:52 AM

USMC302-
I think I going to look into both options, but I'm leaning your way and replacing the tranny. I want the total feel that I used to have with my 89gt. I miss the solid chirp of 2nd and 3rd. I only got this car with AOD because it was $13,500 owned by an old man, with 8,000 miles. Thanks for your help, I will post the outcome soon!!

LX XLR8R · 04-12-2002, 10:04 AM

usmc302's tranny is not he same exact thing you have in there now..you have a AODE and he has a AOD..yous is more electronic than his..not saying it wont work just saying its not the same thing

USMC302 · 04-12-2002, 10:09 AM

LXXL8R I didn't know that, not a big AOD fan, waht is the difference? And good choice DEVILS SON, I would go for the T5 too good luck.

DevilsSon · 04-12-2002, 04:02 PM

I think I will go for the swap out, grin and bear it. I think it will be worth the effort. The AOD I believe uses vacume line to go into the OD gear. The AODE is electronicly controled. For me to install an AOD I would need to add a vacume line. Not totally sure but this is what I remember.

fiveohpatrol · 04-12-2002, 04:31 PM

as far as i know, the SN95 swap is close to the same as the pre 93 T-5 swap.

If you buy a new transmission then yes you will spend well over $1000 to get it done, but if you buy a used tranny like I did then it wont be nearly as expensive.
I bought everything used except for the clutch kit/cable and quadrant. And after selling my year old rebuilt AOD for $425, i ended up spending under $200 out of my pocket. Not bad for about a half second quicker at the track

heres a good link about the swap
http://members.aol.com/black306/AODT5.html

fiveohpatrol · 04-12-2002, 04:43 PM

looks like that site was moved, try this one instead
http://www.wcfords.com/tech/tech/t5swap/t5swap.html

DevilsSon · 04-15-2002, 06:39 AM

I cant thank you enough!!! I've been reading that article over and over, I'ts great!! That's a good cost out of pocket too. I am planning to do this with-in the next 6 weeks, whenever I get some time off and an extra set of hands. I really appreciate all the help everyone has givin!! Thanks again!

Mach 1 · 04-15-2002, 08:39 AM

remember the 4.6 uses a different bellhousing bolt pattern than the windsors, so a tranny out of a windsor, like the one someone above was trying to give you wouldnt work. the AOD doesnt use a vacuum line, and the AODE id electronically controlled, and considered a better tranny than the AOD, as it has a lot of improvements over the AOD.

i would reconsider. Go to www.baumannengineering.com and see what all you can do that AODE. You can make them perform great. Get the baumannator TCS, shift kit, converter...etc...and youll be smoking 5 speeds, in comfort.

Unless you really want a manual, are you sure you want to do a tranny swap on a 4 year old car?

DevilsSon · 04-15-2002, 09:15 AM

I just did a cost comparison and a PRO -vs- CON list, and the manual swap out totally outweighs doing up my AODE. The csot is close, within a couple hundred. But the over all difference of manual trans on Long Islands Southern State (Notorious Curves)
Plus the handling differance over all I feel more control. Believe me I was the first to say "I'll fix up the AODE" I though the cost alone would nutty, but after researching it's the only way to go.

Mach 1 · 04-15-2002, 10:09 AM

Sounds like you really want a manual shift, and for this reason, for you it is the only way to go.

If you feel this strongly about a manual, Im surprised you didnt find a good buy on a manual car in the beginning.

Anyway, good luck..

DevilsSon · 04-17-2002, 03:05 PM

I've really been looking aroung at kits and mods for the AODE and I cant see myself keeping it. I did check that site and thank you it did give me a lot to think about but I think I will go ahead and do the swap.
An old friend of mine owns a body shop (Used to be a extreme pro motor shop) in the same town I live in and he will help me whenever Im ready. He did the swap on my cousins T-Bird and it went real smooth. Cant wait to save up the pennys to get this moving. Thanks for all your help!!

04-11-2002, 12:18 PM	#1
DevilsSon Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Medford, NY Posts: 9	How to dump slush box?? I have a 1998 GT auto, I NEED to get into driving a stick. I only got the car because it was cheap and NOT abused. How can I go from auto to stick cheap but the right way?? __________________ 1998 GT. Flowmaster 2 chamber, Bassani X pipe, 4:10 rear, Cold air induction, 16" AR rims, Dunlop s5000.

04-11-2002, 01:04 PM	#2
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	There isnt a cheap way you are going to spend $1200.00 at the minimum for the conversion, If I were you I would get a big tranny cooler a shift kit and a stall converter and leave it auto. Later, __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

04-11-2002, 01:14 PM	#3
DevilsSon Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Medford, NY Posts: 9	Thanks man, Ive been asking around the office and the motorheads here have the same consensus. What do you recommend in names and prices for the parts youve mentioned? I've heard the name TransGo is the best name in shift kits. __________________ 1998 GT. Flowmaster 2 chamber, Bassani X pipe, 4:10 rear, Cold air induction, 16" AR rims, Dunlop s5000.

04-11-2002, 02:02 PM	#4
geno5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Omaha Posts: 124	If you have a couple hundred $ 350 $450 call Lentech they will hook you up.! __________________ Mods:Svo Alu Y Heads,1.72roller rockers,Cam,Cobra Upper&lower,bbkEqu hedders,Offroad H,FlowmasterMuffs,BBk70mm Tb,and73mmMAF,UnderDrive Pulleys,24lb Svo Inj,Kirban AFPR,190lph Walbro,Griffin Alu Rad,Crane Coil,Batt Relocated to trunk,K/Ncone,smog pump removed,Built Aod,DSSL,3.73gears,Alu flywheel,2800stall,NOS 5115 100shot, Iknow I forgot something Best on motor13.66@102.55 2.14 60' Best on spray13.20@108.98(2.69 60') I Bet mid to low 12 if I can Hook! All runs on street tires

04-11-2002, 02:20 PM	#5
DevilsSon Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Medford, NY Posts: 9	Thanks to Dark_5.0 and geno5.0 for their help. If we were meant to fly we'd have wings, Mustangs GT's are the next best thing!!!! __________________ 1998 GT. Flowmaster 2 chamber, Bassani X pipe, 4:10 rear, Cold air induction, 16" AR rims, Dunlop s5000.

04-11-2002, 03:27 PM	#6
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Transgo is widely accepted as a good shift kit. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

04-12-2002, 06:05 AM	#7
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	ON my 88GT it was an auto when we bought it and we did the famous swap. All used parts except clutch quadrant and cable. I did it myself and it wasn't that bad. SOoooooo, anyway, if your aod is having probs I still have the AOD out of the GT sitting in my garage, nothing wrong with it at all. drove it home when I bought it then pulled motor and tranny and all interior and started from scratch. Anyway I can sell it to you if you need it. Good luck either way. __________________

04-12-2002, 08:52 AM	#8
DevilsSon Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Medford, NY Posts: 9	USMC302- I think I going to look into both options, but I'm leaning your way and replacing the tranny. I want the total feel that I used to have with my 89gt. I miss the solid chirp of 2nd and 3rd. I only got this car with AOD because it was $13,500 owned by an old man, with 8,000 miles. Thanks for your help, I will post the outcome soon!! __________________ 1998 GT. Flowmaster 2 chamber, Bassani X pipe, 4:10 rear, Cold air induction, 16" AR rims, Dunlop s5000.

04-12-2002, 10:04 AM	#9
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	usmc302's tranny is not he same exact thing you have in there now..you have a AODE and he has a AOD..yous is more electronic than his..not saying it wont work just saying its not the same thing __________________ 95 undecided cubes, AFR 185s,undecided cam, undecided intake, and a 150 hit 89 "turbonotch" 2.3T You might want to hold on..i saw this on a cartoon once

04-12-2002, 10:09 AM	#10
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	LXXL8R I didn't know that, not a big AOD fan, waht is the difference? And good choice DEVILS SON, I would go for the T5 too good luck. __________________

04-12-2002, 04:02 PM	#11
DevilsSon Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Medford, NY Posts: 9	I think I will go for the swap out, grin and bear it. I think it will be worth the effort. The AOD I believe uses vacume line to go into the OD gear. The AODE is electronicly controled. For me to install an AOD I would need to add a vacume line. Not totally sure but this is what I remember. __________________ 1998 GT. Flowmaster 2 chamber, Bassani X pipe, 4:10 rear, Cold air induction, 16" AR rims, Dunlop s5000.

04-12-2002, 04:31 PM	#12
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	as far as i know, the SN95 swap is close to the same as the pre 93 T-5 swap. If you buy a new transmission then yes you will spend well over $1000 to get it done, but if you buy a used tranny like I did then it wont be nearly as expensive. I bought everything used except for the clutch kit/cable and quadrant. And after selling my year old rebuilt AOD for $425, i ended up spending under $200 out of my pocket. Not bad for about a half second quicker at the track heres a good link about the swap http://members.aol.com/black306/AODT5.html __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

04-12-2002, 04:43 PM	#13
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	looks like that site was moved, try this one instead http://www.wcfords.com/tech/tech/t5swap/t5swap.html __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

04-15-2002, 06:39 AM	#14
DevilsSon Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Medford, NY Posts: 9	I cant thank you enough!!! I've been reading that article over and over, I'ts great!! That's a good cost out of pocket too. I am planning to do this with-in the next 6 weeks, whenever I get some time off and an extra set of hands. I really appreciate all the help everyone has givin!! Thanks again! __________________ 1998 GT. Flowmaster 2 chamber, Bassani X pipe, 4:10 rear, Cold air induction, 16" AR rims, Dunlop s5000.

04-15-2002, 08:39 AM	#15
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	remember the 4.6 uses a different bellhousing bolt pattern than the windsors, so a tranny out of a windsor, like the one someone above was trying to give you wouldnt work. the AOD doesnt use a vacuum line, and the AODE id electronically controlled, and considered a better tranny than the AOD, as it has a lot of improvements over the AOD. i would reconsider. Go to www.baumannengineering.com and see what all you can do that AODE. You can make them perform great. Get the baumannator TCS, shift kit, converter...etc...and youll be smoking 5 speeds, in comfort. Unless you really want a manual, are you sure you want to do a tranny swap on a 4 year old car? __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

04-15-2002, 09:15 AM	#16
DevilsSon Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Medford, NY Posts: 9	I just did a cost comparison and a PRO -vs- CON list, and the manual swap out totally outweighs doing up my AODE. The csot is close, within a couple hundred. But the over all difference of manual trans on Long Islands Southern State (Notorious Curves) Plus the handling differance over all I feel more control. Believe me I was the first to say "I'll fix up the AODE" I though the cost alone would nutty, but after researching it's the only way to go. __________________ 1998 GT. Flowmaster 2 chamber, Bassani X pipe, 4:10 rear, Cold air induction, 16" AR rims, Dunlop s5000.

04-15-2002, 10:09 AM	#17
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Sounds like you really want a manual shift, and for this reason, for you it is the only way to go. If you feel this strongly about a manual, Im surprised you didnt find a good buy on a manual car in the beginning. Anyway, good luck.. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

04-17-2002, 03:05 PM	#18
DevilsSon Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Medford, NY Posts: 9	I've really been looking aroung at kits and mods for the AODE and I cant see myself keeping it. I did check that site and thank you it did give me a lot to think about but I think I will go ahead and do the swap. An old friend of mine owns a body shop (Used to be a extreme pro motor shop) in the same town I live in and he will help me whenever Im ready. He did the swap on my cousins T-Bird and it went real smooth. Cant wait to save up the pennys to get this moving. Thanks for all your help!! __________________ 1998 GT. Flowmaster 2 chamber, Bassani X pipe, 4:10 rear, Cold air induction, 16" AR rims, Dunlop s5000.

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