GGGGrrrrr I am so mad!!!!

OnMy3rdStang · 12-16-2001, 01:24 AM

OK I had just joined a mustang car club in St. Louis, MO. And they were having a contest for a design logo for the club to put on merchandise. Well I had drawn up a few things and submitted them. I didnt win.

It was only me and some other guy and all he did was take the picture on the forum they have online and cenrtered the horse. That was all. Anyone couldve done that BUT I was ALL ORIGINAL!!!!!
Maybe I am taking this a little too personal but I was pretty pissed. Oh well I will make OWN CLUB LOL

Heres what the logo on the site looks like:

Amnd heres what the"NEW ALL ORIGINAL" logo looks like:

If you want to see my ideas you can go here:
MY IDEAS

Oh well at least I know that I shouldve won

Mercury · 12-16-2001, 01:58 AM

I liked your ideas, they were good. But one thing to consider when looking for Logos is production. There going to be marketed as said, and production costs count.

Your ideas were great, but would be harder and more expensive to produce. The fewer colors used, the better(Production costs jump up considerably with every color added to production.), the less intricate detail, the better (Because intricate details dont reproduce well, especially when sized down. It becomes hard to see, and jumbled looking.)

Plus, simple, clean designs just stick to memory better. Look at Nike, Pepsi, Steeda, Chevorlet, and Ford.

While he looses out big time in orginality, he shows an obvouis lack of imagination and total lack of creativity, he wins in simplicity. You win out big in orginality, your ideas were clean and fresh.

Dont become like me and get discouraged when one or two contests or showings dont go all that well, keep in it. Learn from mistakes, and learn what to expect. Best thing to do to give you and edge in a contest like that is, To know what the "Customer" wants.

tireburner163 · 12-16-2001, 03:26 AM

I like your designs a lot more, but I'm gonna have to agree with Mercury.

BTW is that a 4 banger tryin to do a burn out.

1969Mach1 · 12-16-2001, 10:39 AM

Also have to agree with Mercury. We learned alot about that in class and how you have to keep it simple because of production costs. If they were using your logo say for the site then I'm sure it would of won because online it doesn't make a difference but ink is money and the more you use the more money it's going to cost. But don't worry, in my eye you won.

srv1 · 12-16-2001, 02:01 PM

i dig yours better. the arch with the the R was really cool. keep that design, it may come in use later on.

bri32z · 12-16-2001, 07:17 PM

all you had to do is put .com after stlmustangs and you would of won hands down

6T9PONY · 12-16-2001, 09:04 PM

Dang.....those are some good designs you had. I definitely like them a lot better than his. But all these guys are right. Simplicity pays off when it comes to production prices.

I see the brake light on that car doing the "burnout." So obviously it's being powerstalled. And there is just barely some tiresmoke. I bet you're right tireburner!! It probably is a 4-banger!!

OnMy3rdStang · 12-16-2001, 10:59 PM

Yes Yes it is a 4 popper. Me an my bf were just having some fun behind his old high school. That was dry pavement and the car is an auto and both tires were spinning. LOL Its nothing to write home about but we thought it was cool.
I suppose you guys are right about the contest. Oh well I guess the new logo is easier to remember thanks anyway

*haley*

6T9PONY · 12-17-2001, 12:55 AM

Cool....better luck next time with the contests!

Mustangbelle306 · 12-17-2001, 05:09 AM

Actually, I think they would have been way better off going with her design rather than what they did. Saving the money on colors is of course a reasonable concern, but in the age of zillions of dot.coms and mustang groups its IMO more profitable overall to be noticed.

Loving art and all things artistic, I would most definetely notice that design in a crowd of silly running pony T shirts. I'm sorry you didn't win their contest; you certainly would have won mine, if I needed a logo. And trust me, I'm not free with the talent compliments. Your design was clever, simplistic yet extremely creative. Keep up the great work!

mustangman65_79 · 12-17-2001, 05:27 AM

I liked your idea much better.

OnMy3rdStang · 12-17-2001, 05:40 AM

Thank-you everybody

mustangman65_79 · 12-17-2001, 05:43 AM

Make sure u keep yours.

Quote:

BTW is that a 4 banger tryin to do a burn out.

No, it's oil burning.

lol

I'm not sure, my 4-blurb did it better then that, and I had wider tires. My ranger did it better then my mustang with a 4-blurb, and it was a 4x4.

Rebel79 · 12-17-2001, 10:18 AM

Ok let me give you some insite as to why I would not choose your logo. Just an FYI I have a printing background, and I too, have been in the same situation as you having my logo be not chosen. Your logo would be to complex to print. Its very difficult to print photos, epecially full color photos. That being said, the 'other' entery would be easier to produce.

Now I do agree with you, your design IS better, and his horse is NOT even centered. My *** could have done a better job. But sometimes you just can win. Good design and better luck next time.

OnMy3rdStang · 12-18-2001, 12:53 AM

Hey hey hey Dont be dissin my 4 banger!!!! That was only a 10-20 sec burnout!!!

6T9PONY · 12-18-2001, 01:02 AM

that much smoke for 10-20 seconds?

OnMy3rdStang · 12-18-2001, 04:33 AM

Well it is a 4 cylinder... it only puts out so much smoke... unlike a 302 or up it can only spin up those tires so fast brake torquring them. So yes that was about 10-20 seconds but it just stops getting heavier at a certain point. But I think it is time I go out and get a real burnout pic with the 4 cylinder with its wider tires on it. I only did that pic for a few reasons. Just screwing around because we were bored. Also a guy doubted a 4 cylinder auto mustang could. yes I know a V8 can do a much better one!

mustangman65_79 · 12-18-2001, 08:15 AM

20 Secs!? I did a lot better then that. My 4-banger did better. What kind of tires are those? U want to see something funny, watch my '89 Bronco do a burn out with a stock 351 and 32x11.5R15's, and a 289 sitting in the back. It only does it good when it on moist ground though(power braking it).

OnMy3rdStang · 12-18-2001, 11:25 PM

IT IS NOT A V-8 YOURE NOT GOING TO GET V-8 RESULTS (SMOKE) FROM A FOUR BANGER!
It was cheapo tires
and I am sure your 4cylinder only smoked one tire. Mine was actually turning both tires...
And the pavement had not a single drop of water or oil when we smoked them. And what year and transmisson was your 4 cylinder?
It is not a 5.0 or V8 it is a lowend 2.3 auto. If you want smoke I will go smoke the newer 215's on it....

Stop trippin over it.

6T9PONY · 12-18-2001, 11:39 PM

Haha......I sense some tension here.....

Relax boys and girls......just because your lowly 4s are gutless, you don't gotta brag about some kind of burnout you get with it. Hehe....You all just wish you could have a motor like mine.....hehe.......

J/k.....my motor only puts out about 300 ponies.....

12-16-2001, 01:24 AM	#1
OnMy3rdStang Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 644	GGGGrrrrr I am so mad!!!! OK I had just joined a mustang car club in St. Louis, MO. And they were having a contest for a design logo for the club to put on merchandise. Well I had drawn up a few things and submitted them. I didnt win. It was only me and some other guy and all he did was take the picture on the forum they have online and cenrtered the horse. That was all. Anyone couldve done that BUT I was ALL ORIGINAL!!!!! Maybe I am taking this a little too personal but I was pretty pissed. Oh well I will make OWN CLUB LOL Heres what the logo on the site looks like: Amnd heres what the"NEW ALL ORIGINAL" logo looks like: If you want to see my ideas you can go here: MY IDEAS Oh well at least I know that I shouldve won __________________ Danica Patrick is my homegirl

12-16-2001, 03:26 AM	#3
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	I like your designs a lot more, but I'm gonna have to agree with Mercury. BTW is that a 4 banger tryin to do a burn out. __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

12-16-2001, 10:39 AM	#4
1969Mach1 HEY I CAN SET A NAME NOW! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,556	Also have to agree with Mercury. We learned alot about that in class and how you have to keep it simple because of production costs. If they were using your logo say for the site then I'm sure it would of won because online it doesn't make a difference but ink is money and the more you use the more money it's going to cost. But don't worry, in my eye you won. __________________ 1969 Mustang Mach 1Sold 351-4V Windsor, 4 Speed MACH 1 - Moving At The Speed Of Sound. 1979 Mustang Indianapolis 500 Pace Car For Sale - Email me for Info 302-2V, 3-Speed Auto One of 2,106 made One of 405 sent to Canada. Yes those are caution lights, and No you can't pass me when there on. Ricer Hater's Club - Member #4

12-16-2001, 02:01 PM	#5
srv1 Get down..... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Room 103 Posts: 2,095	i dig yours better. the arch with the the R was really cool. keep that design, it may come in use later on. __________________ Cobra brakes are on! Finally..... ------------------------------------------------

12-16-2001, 10:59 PM	#8
OnMy3rdStang Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 644	Yes Yes it is a 4 popper. Me an my bf were just having some fun behind his old high school. That was dry pavement and the car is an auto and both tires were spinning. LOL Its nothing to write home about but we thought it was cool. I suppose you guys are right about the contest. Oh well I guess the new logo is easier to remember thanks anyway haley __________________ Danica Patrick is my homegirl

12-16-2001, 01:58 AM	#2
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	I liked your ideas, they were good. But one thing to consider when looking for Logos is production. There going to be marketed as said, and production costs count. Your ideas were great, but would be harder and more expensive to produce. The fewer colors used, the better(Production costs jump up considerably with every color added to production.), the less intricate detail, the better (Because intricate details dont reproduce well, especially when sized down. It becomes hard to see, and jumbled looking.) Plus, simple, clean designs just stick to memory better. Look at Nike, Pepsi, Steeda, Chevorlet, and Ford. While he looses out big time in orginality, he shows an obvouis lack of imagination and total lack of creativity, he wins in simplicity. You win out big in orginality, your ideas were clean and fresh. Dont become like me and get discouraged when one or two contests or showings dont go all that well, keep in it. Learn from mistakes, and learn what to expect. Best thing to do to give you and edge in a contest like that is, To know what the "Customer" wants.

12-16-2001, 07:17 PM	#6
bri32z street racing junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 231	all you had to do is put .com after stlmustangs and you would of won hands down

12-16-2001, 09:04 PM	#7
6T9PONY All about the Windsor. Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,052	Dang.....those are some good designs you had. I definitely like them a lot better than his. But all these guys are right. Simplicity pays off when it comes to production prices. I see the brake light on that car doing the "burnout." So obviously it's being powerstalled. And there is just barely some tiresmoke. I bet you're right tireburner!! It probably is a 4-banger!!

12-17-2001, 12:55 AM	#9
6T9PONY All about the Windsor. Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,052	Cool....better luck next time with the contests!

12-17-2001, 05:09 AM	#10
Mustangbelle306 Yay for Chickys Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,532	Actually, I think they would have been way better off going with her design rather than what they did. Saving the money on colors is of course a reasonable concern, but in the age of zillions of dot.coms and mustang groups its IMO more profitable overall to be noticed. Loving art and all things artistic, I would most definetely notice that design in a crowd of silly running pony T shirts. I'm sorry you didn't win their contest; you certainly would have won mine, if I needed a logo. And trust me, I'm not free with the talent compliments. Your design was clever, simplistic yet extremely creative. Keep up the great work!

12-17-2001, 05:27 AM	#11
mustangman65_79 My poor 79 RIP Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suisun City, Posts: 2,320	I liked your idea much better. __________________ '84 mustang GT turbo '85 LTD '89 Camaro Irocz z28 '94 Lightning '96 Trans am

12-17-2001, 05:40 AM	#12
OnMy3rdStang Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 644	Thank-you everybody __________________ Danica Patrick is my homegirl

12-17-2001, 10:18 AM	#14
Rebel79 News Editor Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 2,101	Ok let me give you some insite as to why I would not choose your logo. Just an FYI I have a printing background, and I too, have been in the same situation as you having my logo be not chosen. Your logo would be to complex to print. Its very difficult to print photos, epecially full color photos. That being said, the 'other' entery would be easier to produce. Now I do agree with you, your design IS better, and his horse is NOT even centered. My * could have done a better job. But sometimes you just can win. Good design and better luck next time. __________________ Scott Halihan, News Editor** The MustangWorks Magazine 1994 Supercharged Mustang Cobra Rebel Racing. Home of Bay Area Mustangs

12-18-2001, 12:53 AM	#15
OnMy3rdStang Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 644	Hey hey hey Dont be dissin my 4 banger!!!! That was only a 10-20 sec burnout!!! __________________ Danica Patrick is my homegirl

12-18-2001, 01:02 AM	#16
6T9PONY All about the Windsor. Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,052	that much smoke for 10-20 seconds?

12-18-2001, 04:33 AM	#17
OnMy3rdStang Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 644	Well it is a 4 cylinder... it only puts out so much smoke... unlike a 302 or up it can only spin up those tires so fast brake torquring them. So yes that was about 10-20 seconds but it just stops getting heavier at a certain point. But I think it is time I go out and get a real burnout pic with the 4 cylinder with its wider tires on it. I only did that pic for a few reasons. Just screwing around because we were bored. Also a guy doubted a 4 cylinder auto mustang could. yes I know a V8 can do a much better one! __________________ Danica Patrick is my homegirl

12-18-2001, 08:15 AM	#18
mustangman65_79 My poor 79 RIP Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suisun City, Posts: 2,320	20 Secs!? I did a lot better then that. My 4-banger did better. What kind of tires are those? U want to see something funny, watch my '89 Bronco do a burn out with a stock 351 and 32x11.5R15's, and a 289 sitting in the back. It only does it good when it on moist ground though(power braking it). __________________ '84 mustang GT turbo '85 LTD '89 Camaro Irocz z28 '94 Lightning '96 Trans am

12-18-2001, 11:25 PM	#19
OnMy3rdStang Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 644	IT IS NOT A V-8 YOURE NOT GOING TO GET V-8 RESULTS (SMOKE) FROM A FOUR BANGER! It was cheapo tires and I am sure your 4cylinder only smoked one tire. Mine was actually turning both tires... And the pavement had not a single drop of water or oil when we smoked them. And what year and transmisson was your 4 cylinder? It is not a 5.0 or V8 it is a lowend 2.3 auto. If you want smoke I will go smoke the newer 215's on it.... Stop trippin over it. __________________ Danica Patrick is my homegirl

12-18-2001, 11:39 PM	#20
6T9PONY All about the Windsor. Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,052	Haha......I sense some tension here..... Relax boys and girls......just because your lowly 4s are gutless, you don't gotta brag about some kind of burnout you get with it. Hehe....You all just wish you could have a motor like mine.....hehe....... J/k.....my motor only puts out about 300 ponies.....