Antifreeze in my oil, Again!

poopstang · 02-27-2002, 05:24 PM

This is the 2nd time this has happened to me, i don't understand it? I put on my Explorer intake on this weekend and now the oil level just keeps on rising and water is coming out the exhaust? Last time this happened I had a blown head gasket.

I just don't understand why this happened, I used RTV around the water jackets and tighten the intake down good. WTF!

GodStang · 02-27-2002, 06:35 PM

Only time that has happened for me is blown head gaskets. I had one blow. About a month later the other blew. Sorry I can not be more help/.

poopstang · 02-27-2002, 06:40 PM

Can someone lead me in the right direction? I don't think its the lower intake but I don't understand how that could cause a blown head gasket?

Stang_ROTY · 02-27-2002, 07:25 PM

Has the engine been getting hot??

PKRWUD · 02-27-2002, 07:37 PM

Did you have the heads surfaced after blowing the first gasket? A blown head gasket often involves a head whos surface is slightly warped. If that isn't corrected, it will continue to blow gaskets.

Take care,
-Chris

poopstang · 02-27-2002, 08:19 PM

The engine hasn't been getting hot.

I rebuilt the motor after the first blown head gasket. Decked the block and used different heads.

I still don't understand how putting an intake on can cause this problem?

5ohCOUPE · 02-27-2002, 08:27 PM

Ive only seen this once, but my friend tightened his intake so much that it pulled the heads up a little and his head gaskets started to leak. Like i said This is very unlikely because you really gotta crank down on the intake to do that !!!!!!!!! I still cant believe that he did that but it actually happend.

poopstang · 02-27-2002, 08:55 PM

Is there a way that I can find out what side it is?

PKRWUD · 02-27-2002, 11:41 PM

I would do a compression check first to rule out a head gasket problem. If it is the manifold, it doesn't matter which side it is, the whole lower will have to be removed. Then you should be able to identify where the problem was. It's possible that the manifold is cracked, too.

Take care,
-Chris

poopstang · 02-27-2002, 11:55 PM

with water coming out of the exhaust I think it's a head gasket

I'm gonna pressure test the coolant system and compression test it tom.

I hate this crap all i did was change the intake, WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stanger8172 · 02-28-2002, 12:07 AM

just for my .02 -->my bud who built my motor had to redo the lower intake gasket after my oil had antifreeze in it and it ran like SH*T to!

isn't a little water supposed to come out of the tailpipes in the exhaust? where in the exhaust is the water coming out?

PKRWUD · 02-28-2002, 12:22 AM

Water is the chemical result from a perfectly running engine, after passing through the cats. Puddles under your exhaust tips is normal when cold. However, after the engine warms up, the heat in the pipes evaporates it all. If you are still seeing puddles under the exhaust tips after the engine has been running for 30 minutes, there may be a problem.

Pressure test your cooling system just before doing the compression test, with the spark plugs removed. If water is getting into a cylinder, you will see it get spit out of the spark plug hole when you are cranking the engine for the compression test.

Take care,
-Chris

WADS56 · 02-28-2002, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 5ohCOUPE
Ive only seen this once, but my friend tightened his intake so much that it pulled the heads up a little and his head gaskets started to leak. Like i said This is very unlikely because you really gotta crank down on the intake to do that !!!!!!!!! I still cant believe that he did that but it actually happend.

I believe it because it happened to me. I blew 3 sets of head gaskets in one month and was about to torch my car when I herd of this problem. The last time i put it together I only torqued the intake down to 6ftlbs. Now it works great.

Capri306 · 02-28-2002, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Ive only seen this once, but my friend tightened his intake so much that it pulled the heads up a little and his head gaskets started to leak. Like i said This is very unlikely because you really gotta crank down on the intake to do that !!!!!!!!! I still cant believe that he did that but it actually happend.

I believe it, too. The first 302 I rebuilt, I was putting an Edelbrock Performer manifold on. Well...me being naive, reading the torque specs as 18-22ft.lbs., I thought, "well, if 22 is good, then 35 must be better!" WRONG-O!!! The coolant just freakin' sprayed into the valley. I blamed the Evil RTV god for a long time, then I found out, oops, you can't torque the intake all that tight after all. Live and learn.

I've found "wrist tight" to be adequate. I know, that's about as UNscientific and INconsistent as it gets, however I haven't had a single failure since using this method. Mebbe I have a torque wrench built into my arms, I dunno. Okay, me stop ramblin'.

poopstang · 02-28-2002, 10:24 AM

So you guys are saying it could be my lower intake? I tighten it down to 25 ft. lbs, I guess thats too much?

Well I'm gonna test it today, so we'll see what happens.

02-27-2002, 05:24 PM	#1
poopstang Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: palmbayFL Posts: 184	Antifreeze in my oil, Again! This is the 2nd time this has happened to me, i don't understand it? I put on my Explorer intake on this weekend and now the oil level just keeps on rising and water is coming out the exhaust? Last time this happened I had a blown head gasket. I just don't understand why this happened, I used RTV around the water jackets and tighten the intake down good. WTF! __________________ Fart cans are for Fags! Best E/T-13.70 Best mph-103 -C&L 73mm MAF, Mac 70mm TB, Explorer GT-40 Intake, B303, 1.7 RR's, FMS pulleys, Crane Fireball, full exhaust, 3.55's and 1.5 Steeda springs.

02-27-2002, 06:35 PM	#2
GodStang College Stanger Join Date: May 1999 Location: Aiken,south carolina, usa Posts: 1,097	Only time that has happened for me is blown head gaskets. I had one blow. About a month later the other blew. Sorry I can not be more help/. __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra

02-27-2002, 06:40 PM	#3
poopstang Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: palmbayFL Posts: 184	Can someone lead me in the right direction? I don't think its the lower intake but I don't understand how that could cause a blown head gasket? __________________ Fart cans are for Fags! Best E/T-13.70 Best mph-103 -C&L 73mm MAF, Mac 70mm TB, Explorer GT-40 Intake, B303, 1.7 RR's, FMS pulleys, Crane Fireball, full exhaust, 3.55's and 1.5 Steeda springs.

02-27-2002, 07:25 PM	#4
Stang_ROTY Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Berkshire County - Massachusetts Posts: 735	Has the engine been getting hot?? __________________ Red 1993 GT Street Machine Best E.T. - 12.41/Best MPH = 108 Engine is a 1969 351 block w/393 stroker kit. Dynamic Roller Myte C4, 8 pt cage. Edlebrock Performer heads and Victor Jr. EFI, FRPP 30lb injectors & Cartech fuel system. MSD ignition. Sothside Machine bars & Sub-frames, adj. upper's, 3.73's, Koni rear shocks, much more

02-27-2002, 07:37 PM	#5
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Did you have the heads surfaced after blowing the first gasket? A blown head gasket often involves a head whos surface is slightly warped. If that isn't corrected, it will continue to blow gaskets. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

02-27-2002, 08:19 PM	#6
poopstang Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: palmbayFL Posts: 184	The engine hasn't been getting hot. I rebuilt the motor after the first blown head gasket. Decked the block and used different heads. I still don't understand how putting an intake on can cause this problem? __________________ Fart cans are for Fags! Best E/T-13.70 Best mph-103 -C&L 73mm MAF, Mac 70mm TB, Explorer GT-40 Intake, B303, 1.7 RR's, FMS pulleys, Crane Fireball, full exhaust, 3.55's and 1.5 Steeda springs.

02-27-2002, 08:27 PM	#7
5ohCOUPE Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ORANGE PARK FL. USA Posts: 208	Ive only seen this once, but my friend tightened his intake so much that it pulled the heads up a little and his head gaskets started to leak. Like i said This is very unlikely because you really gotta crank down on the intake to do that !!!!!!!!! I still cant believe that he did that but it actually happend. __________________ 91 LX COUPE, 3.73 gears, 2 1/2 inch H-Pipe, 1 5/8 MAC long tube headers, 73 MM C&L MAF, 70 MM MAC TB, LUNATI cam,1.7 TFS Rockers, TFS Track Heat heads, TFS Track Heat intake, T5 with PRO 5.0 shifter, Griffin aluminum radiator, Fluid Damper, SSM traction bars, 190 GPH in tank fuel pump. And more to come.

02-27-2002, 08:55 PM	#8
poopstang Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: palmbayFL Posts: 184	Is there a way that I can find out what side it is? __________________ Fart cans are for Fags! Best E/T-13.70 Best mph-103 -C&L 73mm MAF, Mac 70mm TB, Explorer GT-40 Intake, B303, 1.7 RR's, FMS pulleys, Crane Fireball, full exhaust, 3.55's and 1.5 Steeda springs.

02-27-2002, 11:41 PM	#9
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	I would do a compression check first to rule out a head gasket problem. If it is the manifold, it doesn't matter which side it is, the whole lower will have to be removed. Then you should be able to identify where the problem was. It's possible that the manifold is cracked, too. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

02-27-2002, 11:55 PM	#10
poopstang Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: palmbayFL Posts: 184	with water coming out of the exhaust I think it's a head gasket I'm gonna pressure test the coolant system and compression test it tom. I hate this crap all i did was change the intake, WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Fart cans are for Fags! Best E/T-13.70 Best mph-103 -C&L 73mm MAF, Mac 70mm TB, Explorer GT-40 Intake, B303, 1.7 RR's, FMS pulleys, Crane Fireball, full exhaust, 3.55's and 1.5 Steeda springs.

02-28-2002, 12:07 AM	#11
stanger8172 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Milwaukee,Wisconsin Posts: 380	just for my .02 -->my bud who built my motor had to redo the lower intake gasket after my oil had antifreeze in it and it ran like SHT to! isn't a little water supposed to come out of the tailpipes in the exhaust? where in the exhaust is the water coming out? __________________ '91 LX convertible , T-5, Centerforce Dual Friction, MSD Blaster Coil, FR 9MM wires, 13 timing, 1.6rr, ported/polished/milled stock heads, 1.94/1.60 stainless valves, March Performance Pulleys, K&N panel, 1"spacer, BBK shorties, 2 1/2" off road H, Summit 2 1/2" catback

02-28-2002, 12:22 AM	#12
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Water is the chemical result from a perfectly running engine, after passing through the cats. Puddles under your exhaust tips is normal when cold. However, after the engine warms up, the heat in the pipes evaporates it all. If you are still seeing puddles under the exhaust tips after the engine has been running for 30 minutes, there may be a problem. Pressure test your cooling system just before doing the compression test, with the spark plugs removed. If water is getting into a cylinder, you will see it get spit out of the spark plug hole when you are cranking the engine for the compression test. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

02-28-2002, 10:24 AM	#15
poopstang Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: palmbayFL Posts: 184	So you guys are saying it could be my lower intake? I tighten it down to 25 ft. lbs, I guess thats too much? Well I'm gonna test it today, so we'll see what happens. __________________ Fart cans are for Fags! Best E/T-13.70 Best mph-103 -C&L 73mm MAF, Mac 70mm TB, Explorer GT-40 Intake, B303, 1.7 RR's, FMS pulleys, Crane Fireball, full exhaust, 3.55's and 1.5 Steeda springs.

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