AOD tranny tech. HELP!!!!

84_GT350 · 04-06-2001, 02:15 AM

I need to know if the AOD kickdown is an outboard or inboard kickdown. I just got a new carb and it will only work with (I think) outboard kickdowns. Please help! If you need help, inboard kickdowns have kickdown studs that point inwards, outboard kickdowns have studs that point out.

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1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

84_GT350 · 04-06-2001, 06:24 PM

Anybody....Anybody?

ttt

macx · 04-06-2001, 10:06 PM

Well, first, it's not a "kickdown" - it's a "throttle valve linkage" - check out www.baumannengineering.com for info - they show how to hook up and adjust it. You can't turn the stud around? I have read there are some carbs that supposedly can't be used with an AOD. If yours is an Ebok, check their website maybe it will shed some light. There might be adapters, but I don't know of any.

84_GT350 · 04-07-2001, 01:54 AM

Well...here's what I DO know. Right now I've got a Carter #9635 (625cfm, elec. choke, Chevy/universal linkage) with an adapter and it seems to run fine. Well...that carb's toast so I got a Carter #9637 (same features with a Ford kickdown linkage). I just don't want to install this thing and then find out it doesn't work.

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1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

Capri306 · 04-07-2001, 02:37 AM

Take macx's warning seriously about the linkage not being a kickdown; that's the WORST possible way to look at that cable. The AOD uses the TV cable to modify shift points, feel, and most importantly throttle valve pressure. Improperly adjusted, it'll produce a southern-fried automatic.

Take for example my own AOD I'm rebuilding right now. The TV cable grommet on the throttle body went bad, allowing the TV cable to be out of adjustment by maybe an eighth of an inch, and it really did a number on my clutches! They're all dark & burned with chunks missing out of a few, same with the OD band. The steels have hotspots all over them and are pretty blued. This isn't why my AOD went bad, but you could call it a "wake up" to why TV pressure is important. Too little TV pressure will cause all of that kind of slippage & overheating. Baumann's a great site to visit! Setting TV pressure a little on the high side is best. Personally, I set mine just to the point where I can stand the way it downshifts when coming to a stop. Once I had it so high that it almost would stall, but boy-o it'd knock you back in your seat when launching & shifting. BTW, my AOD blew up because the one-way clutch decided to come apart; it's currently being replaced with a HD 'mechanical diode' unit.

Baumann has a Ford part number you can get at a Ford dealership for a carbed setup. I think they used it on Crown Vic's or something for police duty cars. Hope this helps, and sorry I went off on a tangent about TV pressure. Just a big concern I have now that I've actually seen what a maladjusted cable can do.

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Capri306, Moderator, The Mustang Works Online
1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73
1987 Mustang LX Notch

04-06-2001, 02:15 AM	#1
84_GT350 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Overland Park, KS, USA Posts: 1,631	AOD tranny tech. HELP!!!! I need to know if the AOD kickdown is an outboard or inboard kickdown. I just got a new carb and it will only work with (I think) outboard kickdowns. Please help! If you need help, inboard kickdowns have kickdown studs that point inwards, outboard kickdowns have studs that point out. ------------------ 1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

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04-06-2001, 06:24 PM	#2
84_GT350 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Overland Park, KS, USA Posts: 1,631	Anybody....Anybody? ttt

04-06-2001, 10:06 PM	#3
macx Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Gordonville MO USA Posts: 448	Well, first, it's not a "kickdown" - it's a "throttle valve linkage" - check out www.baumannengineering.com for info - they show how to hook up and adjust it. You can't turn the stud around? I have read there are some carbs that supposedly can't be used with an AOD. If yours is an Ebok, check their website maybe it will shed some light. There might be adapters, but I don't know of any.

04-07-2001, 01:54 AM	#4
84_GT350 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Overland Park, KS, USA Posts: 1,631	Well...here's what I DO know. Right now I've got a Carter #9635 (625cfm, elec. choke, Chevy/universal linkage) with an adapter and it seems to run fine. Well...that carb's toast so I got a Carter #9637 (same features with a Ford kickdown linkage). I just don't want to install this thing and then find out it doesn't work. ------------------ 1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

04-07-2001, 02:37 AM	#5
Capri306 Moderator Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Posts: 1,001	Take macx's warning seriously about the linkage not being a kickdown; that's the WORST possible way to look at that cable. The AOD uses the TV cable to modify shift points, feel, and most importantly throttle valve pressure. Improperly adjusted, it'll produce a southern-fried automatic. Take for example my own AOD I'm rebuilding right now. The TV cable grommet on the throttle body went bad, allowing the TV cable to be out of adjustment by maybe an eighth of an inch, and it really did a number on my clutches! They're all dark & burned with chunks missing out of a few, same with the OD band. The steels have hotspots all over them and are pretty blued. This isn't why my AOD went bad, but you could call it a "wake up" to why TV pressure is important. Too little TV pressure will cause all of that kind of slippage & overheating. Baumann's a great site to visit! Setting TV pressure a little on the high side is best. Personally, I set mine just to the point where I can stand the way it downshifts when coming to a stop. Once I had it so high that it almost would stall, but boy-o it'd knock you back in your seat when launching & shifting. BTW, my AOD blew up because the one-way clutch decided to come apart; it's currently being replaced with a HD 'mechanical diode' unit. Baumann has a Ford part number you can get at a Ford dealership for a carbed setup. I think they used it on Crown Vic's or something for police duty cars. Hope this helps, and sorry I went off on a tangent about TV pressure. Just a big concern I have now that I've actually seen what a maladjusted cable can do. ------------------ Capri306, Moderator, The Mustang Works Online 1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73 1987 Mustang LX Notch