A little birdy under the hood!

Mustangbelle306 · 05-14-2002, 10:51 PM

Hey fellow Mustangers, got a quick question...

When I take my foot off the throttle, there is a high pitched chirping noise coming from underneath the hood that goes away when I apply light pressure to the clutch pedal. WTF is going on? Its driving me batty!

I just had the clutch replaced when the engine was installed...did the crappy shop do more shoddy work on the install? Say it ain't so!

Thanks for the help,

Belle

cyberstang5.0 · 05-15-2002, 07:21 AM

Well, I had a shop install my clutch. It was only becuase I didn't have access to a lift

Same thing happens to Sally. When I'm at idle, there is a little squeeking noise that sounds like it's comming from the engine, but it's really the tranny. The clutch fork is just a little lose. I always have my foot on the pedal so I don't notice it unless I'm out of my car. You can try adjusting the tention on your clutch cable. Try that, it might help ya out

KiltedBanshees93GT · 05-15-2002, 07:34 AM

Did they replace the throwout bearing? They should have.

Jorge

fast88 · 05-15-2002, 08:19 AM

Ihad the same problem on my 95 it turned out to be the clutch fork vibrating on the ball.I would grease it and it would stay away for a while but would always come back.I finally sold the car but can still hear that sound lol!

cyberstang5.0 · 05-15-2002, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KiltedBanshees93GT
Did they replace the throwout bearing? They should have.

Jorge

Well, for me? Who knows

I'm getting a new tranny here soon and I'm doing EVERYTHING myself. You have to do things yourself these days to know it's done right.

fiveohpatrol · 05-15-2002, 11:02 AM

sounds like a throwout bearing to me as well

blueneonman1 · 05-15-2002, 12:48 PM

Is that noise you hear when you push in the clutch? I have this faint "whoop" noise when i push in the clutch in 1st gear. It's very faint and sounds like air pressure somewhere is escaping. It's definitely a pressure sound and not mechanical. Weird. Just wondering if yours sounds the same. Only in 1st gear though

joe4speed · 05-15-2002, 02:26 PM

I'd definitely bet $$ it's the throwout bearing...

Mustangbelle306 · 05-15-2002, 05:18 PM

ugh that means its almost time for a tranny rebuild doesn't it...

Why does it only make the chirp at certain times? I know NOTHING about trannys, so any advice is much appreciated!!

Thanks, Belle

fiveohpatrol · 05-15-2002, 05:25 PM

no you dont need a tranny rebuild. The throwout bearing is inside the clutch fork. It rides around the input shaft of the tranny and gives the fork something to push the pressure plate with.

They come included in all clutch kits, so either the guy didnt install a new one when he put your clutch in, or it was faulty.

good luck with it,
-Drew

fast88 · 05-15-2002, 07:42 PM

Trust me on this one people,i repalced the clutvh as a kit the first time since the I thought it was the bearing too ,the second time i thought well maybe I got a bad bearing (my luck goes that way lol).The third time I started looking for something else and found it as stated in my above post.Get a new fork ball and fork and it will go away.I just keep greasing mine lol,cheap bastard i know!

venumus93 · 05-15-2002, 08:14 PM

...another vote for throwout bearing....I know, as I'm on my 3rd one, & the 'bird' still chirps at me all the time....later!

flyin 5.8 · 05-15-2002, 08:47 PM

I have a 2.3l LX that does the same thing. Chirps in all gears, rest my foot on the pedal and it goes away. I've been told that it's the throw out bearing, but wouldn't that make noise when the clutch is disengaged (pedal is pushed)??? that is when it is under load. I thought the throw out bearing was just along for the ride when the clutch is engaged??

Mustangbelle306 · 05-15-2002, 08:50 PM

What the ****??? The clutch is like, 3-4 months old, with under 3,00 miles on it, HD Motorsport...is this something else I can attribute to the stupid *** ******* machine shop?????

Pardon my french, but it seems everytime I turn around, they have fucked me again. I've already started to try and find out what legal recourse I have against this place, so who knows---maybe this is more salt in the goddamn barrel

cyberstang5.0 · 05-15-2002, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mustangbelle306
What the ****??? The clutch is like, 3-4 months old, with under 3,00 miles on it, HD Motorsport...is this something else I can attribute to the stupid *** ******* machine shop?????

Pardon my french, but it seems everytime I turn around, they have fucked me again. I've already started to try and find out what legal recourse I have against this place, so who knows---maybe this is more salt in the goddamn barrel

The kids today, they are just so angry.. damn that crazy rap music

srv1 · 05-15-2002, 11:13 PM

BELLE, my car does it since i bought it. i just touch the clutch pedal and it goes away. i have determined the clutch fork or the throwout bearing. it has 95k on it and it NEVER gave me a problem! if it is the same noise that i am hearing, ignore it, but you cant do that since i dont know what the noise you are hearing. try spraying WD or PB Blaster were the clutch fork is and start it up. if it goes away, it is the clutch fork. if not, it is the throwout bearing or maybe the retainer it rides on. i hope i helped you.

joe4speed · 05-16-2002, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cyberstang5.0

The kids today, they are just so angry.. damn that crazy rap music

ROTFLMFAO!!!

Mach 1 · 05-16-2002, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mustangbelle306
What the ****??? The clutch is like, 3-4 months old, with under 3,00 miles on it, HD Motorsport...is this something else I can attribute to the stupid *** ******* machine shop?????

Pardon my french, but it seems everytime I turn around, they have fucked me again. I've already started to try and find out what legal recourse I have against this place, so who knows---maybe this is more salt in the goddamn barrel

My advice is to learn to work on your own car, or get a new hobby.

If you want something done right , you have to do it yourself. This is even more so when it comes to auto repairs.

Old Guy with 87 GT · 05-16-2002, 06:33 AM

ok.....this is the same noise i hear from mine and i've heard it on many other mustangs ......same exact noise and symptoms

....not a big problem .......on mine i put a new throw out bearing and an adjustable quatrant in it ........heard this squeeking noise after putting a few miles on it.......at first i was concerned......now that i have over twenty thousand miles on it with no problems ......no concearn any more ..........since then i've heard a few other stangs with the same exact symptoms and never seen it caus a problem

the culprit....the throw out bearing ......the cause .....if your clutch is adjusted so that there is no tension on the cable when the clutch is disengaged (the way it supposed to be) what happens is the throw out bearing slows down or stops turning but is still next to the forks on the pressure plate .......the noise comes when the forks on the pressure plate are baerly rubbing against the throw out bearing ....not enought to keep it turning but just enough to rub it and make an irritating noise

easy cure .....go to the hardware store, get a cheap low tension spring (a screen door spring works).......install it on the linkage at the transmission so it puts a small amount of tension on the clutch lever pulling it just a scoosh away from the clutch ........if its a low tension spring it won't make the clutch harder to engage but it'll keep the throw out bearing from touching the forks on the pressure plate

or if your lazy like me .....just turn the radio up

Old Guy with 87 GT · 05-16-2002, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mustangbelle306
What the ****??? The clutch is like, 3-4 months old, with under 3,00 miles on it, HD Motorsport...is this something else I can attribute to the stupid *** ******* machine shop?????

Pardon my french, but it seems everytime I turn around, they have fucked me again. I've already started to try and find out what legal recourse I have against this place, so who knows---maybe this is more salt in the goddamn barrel

just wanted to add ....this isn't really a problem with the install ......if your shop adjusted your clutch properly ,this can still happen ........i did my own clutch and trans install and had the same problem and i've seen the same problem with other mustangs .......it's pretty common ,not a problem with the install .......if anything let them know that you had a problem and how you fixed it ......(read above post)

i havn't read about the other problems you've had with your shop so i don't know what else they did ,but as for the clutch i wouldn't make a fuss ....

well ,hope that helped

05-14-2002, 10:51 PM	#1
Mustangbelle306 Yay for Chickys Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,532	A little birdy under the hood! Hey fellow Mustangers, got a quick question... When I take my foot off the throttle, there is a high pitched chirping noise coming from underneath the hood that goes away when I apply light pressure to the clutch pedal. WTF is going on? Its driving me batty! I just had the clutch replaced when the engine was installed...did the crappy shop do more shoddy work on the install? Say it ain't so! Thanks for the help, Belle

05-15-2002, 08:19 AM	#4
fast88 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rockingham,N.C. Posts: 80	same problem Ihad the same problem on my 95 it turned out to be the clutch fork vibrating on the ball.I would grease it and it would stay away for a while but would always come back.I finally sold the car but can still hear that sound lol! __________________ 88 Notchback orig. 4 cylinder car with a efi v8 swap from a wrecked 89 5.0 hatch,edelbrock performer rpm's 190/160,typhoon intake,comp cams 1.6 rockers,65mm tb and spacer,pa performance c4 w/ 3000 stall,3.73's auburn pro, 31 spline mosers,mac off road h-pipe,1 5/8 shorties ,and 2 1/2 pro dumps,kirban fpr,190 lph walbrp. SOON TO BE BLOWN!

05-15-2002, 11:02 AM	#6
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	sounds like a throwout bearing to me as well __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

05-15-2002, 12:48 PM	#7
blueneonman1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Posts: 208	Is that noise you hear when you push in the clutch? I have this faint "whoop" noise when i push in the clutch in 1st gear. It's very faint and sounds like air pressure somewhere is escaping. It's definitely a pressure sound and not mechanical. Weird. Just wondering if yours sounds the same. Only in 1st gear though __________________ Blue Streak - '95 5.0L Mustang GT convertible \| Saleen heat extractor fiberglass hood \| K&N custom CAI \| Taylor Spiro Pros \| Walbro 255lph pump \| Kirban AFPR \| MSD Cap/Rotor/Blaster TFI \| 2 chamber flows w/ dumps \| BBK LTs \| BBK short h-pipe \| No smog or EGR \| NOS 75hp dry kit w/ heater & purge \| Battery in trunk\| Chassis Eng. subframes \| Custom 6-pt rollbar \| King Cobra clutch \| Steeda adj. clutch cable w/ double hook quad. & firewall adj. \| B&M Ripper shifter \| FMS C springs \| Pro3i C/C plates \| Lakewood 70/30 struts \| Comp. Eng. 3-way shocks \| Chassis Eng. LCAs \| Fan switch \| 180* thermo FMS\| Kumho Ecsta 255/40's all around \| Coolest neon lighting on a Mustang EVER! Don't find yourself in front of me...my brakes SUCK! saving up for a complete Cobra package Homepage: http://www16.brinkster.com/blueneonman/ Best 1/4 time: 13.5 @ 101 Best 1/8 time: 8.6 @ 84

05-15-2002, 02:26 PM	#8
joe4speed He said Member...heh, heh Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Jupiter, Florida U.S.A. Posts: 3,718	I'd definitely bet $$ it's the throwout bearing... __________________ *Joe!* 1988 GT, 13.58@101mph Check out my listing! Click here! Or my website:www.joe4speed.com

05-15-2002, 07:21 AM	#2
cyberstang5.0 347ci of HORSE POWER!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,416	Well, I had a shop install my clutch. It was only becuase I didn't have access to a lift Same thing happens to Sally. When I'm at idle, there is a little squeeking noise that sounds like it's comming from the engine, but it's really the tranny. The clutch fork is just a little lose. I always have my foot on the pedal so I don't notice it unless I'm out of my car. You can try adjusting the tention on your clutch cable. Try that, it might help ya out

05-15-2002, 07:34 AM	#3
KiltedBanshees93GT Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Pigeon Forge Tn Posts: 611	Did they replace the throwout bearing? They should have. Jorge

05-15-2002, 05:18 PM	#9
Mustangbelle306 Yay for Chickys Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,532	ugh that means its almost time for a tranny rebuild doesn't it... Why does it only make the chirp at certain times? I know NOTHING about trannys, so any advice is much appreciated!! Thanks, Belle

05-15-2002, 05:25 PM	#10
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	no you dont need a tranny rebuild. The throwout bearing is inside the clutch fork. It rides around the input shaft of the tranny and gives the fork something to push the pressure plate with. They come included in all clutch kits, so either the guy didnt install a new one when he put your clutch in, or it was faulty. good luck with it, -Drew __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

05-15-2002, 07:42 PM	#11
fast88 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rockingham,N.C. Posts: 80	trust me on this one Trust me on this one people,i repalced the clutvh as a kit the first time since the I thought it was the bearing too ,the second time i thought well maybe I got a bad bearing (my luck goes that way lol).The third time I started looking for something else and found it as stated in my above post.Get a new fork ball and fork and it will go away.I just keep greasing mine lol,cheap bastard i know! __________________ 88 Notchback orig. 4 cylinder car with a efi v8 swap from a wrecked 89 5.0 hatch,edelbrock performer rpm's 190/160,typhoon intake,comp cams 1.6 rockers,65mm tb and spacer,pa performance c4 w/ 3000 stall,3.73's auburn pro, 31 spline mosers,mac off road h-pipe,1 5/8 shorties ,and 2 1/2 pro dumps,kirban fpr,190 lph walbrp. SOON TO BE BLOWN!

05-15-2002, 08:14 PM	#12
venumus93 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: West Melbourne, FL, USA Posts: 237	...another vote for throwout bearing....I know, as I'm on my 3rd one, & the 'bird' still chirps at me all the time....later! __________________ 93Cobra#3974, 114K miles 3.55's, flo's, pullies, C&L 1/4: 13.985 60': 2.088 (street tires) MPH: 99.58

05-15-2002, 08:47 PM	#13
flyin 5.8 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 73	I have a 2.3l LX that does the same thing. Chirps in all gears, rest my foot on the pedal and it goes away. I've been told that it's the throw out bearing, but wouldn't that make noise when the clutch is disengaged (pedal is pushed)??? that is when it is under load. I thought the throw out bearing was just along for the ride when the clutch is engaged?? __________________ If girls are made of sugar and spice, how come they taste like tuna? "Nitrous is like a hot chick with an STD . . . you want to hit it, but your afraid of the consequences."

05-15-2002, 08:50 PM	#14
Mustangbelle306 Yay for Chickys Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,532	What the **??? The clutch is like, 3-4 months old, with under 3,00 miles on it, HD Motorsport...is this something else I can attribute to the stupid * ******* machine shop????? Pardon my french, but it seems everytime I turn around, they have fucked me again. I've already started to try and find out what legal recourse I have against this place, so who knows---maybe this is more salt in the goddamn barrel

05-15-2002, 11:13 PM	#16
srv1 Get down..... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Room 103 Posts: 2,095	BELLE, my car does it since i bought it. i just touch the clutch pedal and it goes away. i have determined the clutch fork or the throwout bearing. it has 95k on it and it NEVER gave me a problem! if it is the same noise that i am hearing, ignore it, but you cant do that since i dont know what the noise you are hearing. try spraying WD or PB Blaster were the clutch fork is and start it up. if it goes away, it is the clutch fork. if not, it is the throwout bearing or maybe the retainer it rides on. i hope i helped you. __________________ Cobra brakes are on! Finally..... ------------------------------------------------

05-16-2002, 06:33 AM	#19
Old Guy with 87 GT Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Posts: 379	ok.....this is the same noise i hear from mine and i've heard it on many other mustangs ......same exact noise and symptoms ....not a big problem .......on mine i put a new throw out bearing and an adjustable quatrant in it ........heard this squeeking noise after putting a few miles on it.......at first i was concerned......now that i have over twenty thousand miles on it with no problems ......no concearn any more ..........since then i've heard a few other stangs with the same exact symptoms and never seen it caus a problem the culprit....the throw out bearing ......the cause .....if your clutch is adjusted so that there is no tension on the cable when the clutch is disengaged (the way it supposed to be) what happens is the throw out bearing slows down or stops turning but is still next to the forks on the pressure plate .......the noise comes when the forks on the pressure plate are baerly rubbing against the throw out bearing ....not enought to keep it turning but just enough to rub it and make an irritating noise easy cure .....go to the hardware store, get a cheap low tension spring (a screen door spring works).......install it on the linkage at the transmission so it puts a small amount of tension on the clutch lever pulling it just a scoosh away from the clutch ........if its a low tension spring it won't make the clutch harder to engage but it'll keep the throw out bearing from touching the forks on the pressure plate or if your lazy like me .....just turn the radio up __________________ the "not so old",old guy 87 Mustang GT T-top >hanlon t-5, pro 5.0, centerforce clutch ,adj. cable/quatrant ,3.27s ,full 2 1/2 ex(off road H) adj. reg. ,e-cam ,70mm TB, cobra intake ,1.7rr ,ported/milled e7ets w/crane springs ,306 balaced/decked short block w/speed pro forged flat top pistons ...257rwhp/302rwt best et 13.7@102 (4/11 ) '80 Capri (future project,currently collecting parts for 351 moter)

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